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    Hey, Im looking for to change the papal ++++++++++ stars for each faction, anyone know what file or anyone I can ask?

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    It should be the faction standing in descr_start.

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    It is basically the standing that a faction has towards the papal_states faction. At the beginning you can set that in the descr_strat file:
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    faction_standings    papal_states,        0.2    england, portugal, poland, hungary
    faction_standings    papal_states,        -1.0    slave










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    Quote Originally Posted by konny View Post
    It should be the faction standing in descr_start.
    The one in the \data\descr_strat or those in the diffrent campaign folders \data\world\maps\campaign\imperial campaign(or historical campaign)\descr_strat?

    Quote Originally Posted by gigantus View Post
    It is basically the standing that a faction has towards the papal_states faction. At the beginning you can set that in the descr_strat file:
    Code:
    faction_standings    papal_states,        0.2    england, portugal, poland, hungary
    faction_standings    papal_states,        -1.0    slave
    This is my data\descr_strat file:
    Code:
    faction_standings portugal,  -0.6 slave
    faction_standings portugal,  -0.6 moors
    faction_standings portugal,  -0.2 france
    faction_standings portugal,  0.2 sicily
    faction_standings portugal,  0.4 milan
    faction_standings portugal,  0.8 spain
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.6 slave
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.6 moors
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.6 turks
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.6 egypt
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.2 hre
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.2 france
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.2 hungary
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.2 england
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.2 scotland
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.2 denmark
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.4 milan
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.4 venice
    faction_standings papal_states,  0.4 sicily
    faction_standings papal_states,  -0.8 norway
    I added the Bold text (norway) to that list, but absolutly nothing has changed.
    Last edited by Kjertesvein; October 26, 2009 at 01:04 PM.
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    It should work by modding the faction standing in descr_start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackleaf-Wille View Post
    The one in the \data\descr_strat or those in the diffrent campaign folders \data\world\maps\campaign\imperial campaign(or historical campaign)\descr_strat?
    It is the one in the campaign folder. A descr_strat in \data doesn't do a thing, you can delete that.

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    Well, the standing doesn't show negative values, does it?
    Where is Norway on the pope's list in your game?
    As a check, make the value positive and then check again. (new game start required).










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    Quote Originally Posted by gigantus View Post
    Well, the standing doesn't show negative values, does it?
    Where is Norway on the pope's list in your game?
    As a check, make the value positive and then check again. (new game start required).
    The ingame Papal stars doesn't change at all, nothing changed.
    Norway right in the middle.
    I did, nothign happend.

    I don't know which to edit, so I uploaded them all

    Here is the descr strat in DLV_ext\date
    The descr strat in the DLV_ext\data\world\maps\campaign\custom\Historical_Campaign
    The descr strat in the DLV_ext\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    Looking a the faction_standings file, I am starting to believe that all factions start of with a neutral setting (in the middle). After that the faction standing changes according to the triggers. Most likely a case of 'hard coded'.










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    But... I don't see any codes which could possibly change the papals stars, there are these war codes (Norway at war with *****)
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Well, Wille, you didn't follow through on my suggestion earlier on. Otherwise you would have noticed that the standing with the pope changed. (And I wouldn't have started to believe in the hardcoded devil) Just did a try myself: gave england a plus 0.8 and hre a negative 0.8 in relationship with papal_states in the descr_strat. Result: hre right the bottom and england at the top of the pope's list.

    The faction standing is right at the bottom of the descr_strat file, so if there is an error in the file all faction standings will end up right in the middle. (errors in the descr_strat leave you with empty villages owned by the rebels)










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    Sorry, I'm abit confused.

    Konny says, the descrstrat in the /data does nothing and I can delete it.

    Gigantus says I should edit the papal states standings in the descrstrat(there are 3 descr strat files to edit). But only the descrstrat in the /data got the papal standings, not the other 2.

    :s

    I will ask a DLVer for some aid on this, hang on.
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackleaf-Wille View Post
    Konny says, the descrstrat in the /data does nothing and I can delete it.

    Gigantus says I should edit the papal states standings in the descrstrat(there are 3 descr strat files to edit). But only the descrstrat in the /data got the papal standings, not the other 2.
    The game only reads the descr_strat from your campaign folder (ie. usually imperial_campaign). I don't know why you have three in different locations, but obviously two of them are useless.

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    I am not sure where the confusion is: my instruction pertains to the valid descr_strat quite obviously (why would I ask youto change something in a wrong file?). Also obvious is that you did not tell us which of the you are showing us entries from. In my case, simply copy the lines from the papal_states entries into the correct file in the correct position.










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    In DLV we have a popup question at the start of the campaign where we choose which faction standings setup we want from 2 options. So it's in the campaign script.

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    @ Tajii:

    The basic faction_standing is in the descr_strat. What you describe is a script (certainly a lengthy one) that sets the faction standings through the said script. In principle a 'mini' descr_faction_standings file. The first option will be the fction standing in the descr_strat file the other option will be through the campaign_script file, somewhat like this:

    monitor_event [yes no counter from question]
    set_faction_standing papal_states hre 0.8
    set_faction_standing hre papal_states 0.8

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    Yeah I know. I'm just helping clear up the confusion

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    Gigantus is right here, the descr_strat faction standing operates this. I've used it with every mod I've made.

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    Finally, after starting the game 50 times, it was one of the 3 script files or so, in the end - I got it. Thanks for assistance!

    ok, back to the drawing board...
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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