disposing of family members?

[eXistenZ]

The idea occured to me when playing medievall II, where the advisor said about your family members "some will be great generals, other good governors, and some are best send far away on dangerous campaigns"

It made me think with something else I once read about Rome. That the numbers of family members is sort of linear with the number of provinces you have. It always annoyed me when you have a stable faction and just are building, not expanding into new provinces, that no children are born so withinh 20 turns you will have a shortage of governors/generals.

Now we all know negative traits come with old age (money spending, unrest provoking), and i always send my members (if they aren't good generals) around on the map to make some watch towers. Would disposing of them when they are not yet senior (about 50 or so), give me new kids in the family?

I know disposing of them is simple, you just send them in a (naval) battle where you have no chance of winning and autoresolve

So what do you guys think?

[Chicken]

if they are rubbish governers, generals, then i just put them in a good general's legion, and use the useless general as an extra cavalry unit, and if they ARE disposable, then i dont mind them getting killed.

[eXistenZ]

Yeah but would intentionally disposing of them give me new family members instead? By which I mean, new kids that are born

[Chicken]

no....

if they are dead, they cant make babies

[eXistenZ]

no....

if they are dead, they cant make babies

Yeah I got that (besides being 50 years old isn't very good for your fertility).

I thought, because the number of family members has to do with your number of provinces, that if some members die, somewhere else in your faction new kids will be born, to keep the balance. Is this possible or not?

[Xellos_Moon]

the number of family members has to do with your number of provinces

is this really true? im skeptical

[Xellos_Moon]

Soo....Theoretically of my uncle julius died, then a baby boom would spring up? LOLOL

[|Sith| Max]

best way to dispose of em would be to put em on a boat and then send em on a cruise trough the Mediterranean. always someone there that does not like them.

[Chicken]

best way to dispose of em would be to put em on a boat and then send em on a cruise trough the Mediterranean. always someone there that does not like them.

yeah, but then u lose a boat
best way if greece or macedon isnt destroyed yet, then send him to attack a lone hoplite spear or pike unit, then get the general to charge into the phalanx.

[eXistenZ]

I know how to get rid of them, but will the game keep your family tree balanced by letting new members been born?

[Genius of the Restoration]

I'm fairly certain that if you capture settlements faster than your family has children you get adoptions. It doesn't happen every time you capture a settlement, but the chance of it happening every turn seems higher.
OP: If you are already short of generals, I'm not sure if having even less increases your chances of an adoption or if it stays the same. I suppose you can adopt an additional general, but there's no saying how long this might take. If you know how many you're supposed to have and how many you've got and manage to fall just below the line, then I guess it might result in an adoption.

[eXistenZ]

What determines the rate of children being born?

[Barkhorn1x]

Do "Man of the Hour" events occur in RTW?

I know they do in MTW2

[eXistenZ]

Do "Man of the Hour" events occur in RTW?

I know they do in MTW2

Yes butt very rare. In 10 campaigns i had them about 3-5 times. sometimes, you even get a message that the adoption failed because the message didn't get through or so.

Still I like to know what determines new members being born, because I once had a period of 20-30 turns where maybe 1-2 kids were born, so i like to know how i can influence it

[King_Darius]

some of your family members have better "Fertility" traits, so they can produce more children.

[Doctor]

best way to dispose of em would be to put em on a boat and then send em on a cruise trough the Mediterranean. always someone there that does not like them.

Couldn't agree more. However if you feel the need to salvage that family member for whatever reason you can simply send him around with a few units and kill rebels, and over time they will gain some decent military traits and/or some decent increases to the hit points making them all the better for suicidal killing machines. If not he will die fighting rebels and you will be free of one useless administrator/general.

I'm fairly certain that if you capture settlements faster than your family has children you get adoptions. It doesn't happen every time you capture a settlement, but the chance of it happening every turn seems higher.

Yes your assumption is correct. The game increases the amount of child births, adoptions, and man of the hour events if you have a small family tree in comparison with the territories you own.

[eXistenZ]

Yes your assumption is correct. The game increases the amount of child births, adoptions, and man of the hour events if you have a small family tree in comparison with the territories you own.

So if some 50 year old die soon after each other, you will have more adoptions/births in the next turns, no?

[Genius of the Restoration]

Yes. Also, Man of the Hour adoptions come from battles. If you get a heroic when you don't have enough family members it is quite likely that you'll get a Man of the Hour.

[King_Darius]

yep, but heroics are easier said than done....

[|Sith| Max]

"Sadly The adoption candidate died before the adoption message reached him."