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    Default Modern Military tactics? Do they even exist?

    I have a big question. Do modern military tactics even exist? I could be wrong, but it seems like in the late 20th and this century there is no actual combat tactics. It seems like who ever has more guns wins. As far as I know there are no formations or anything along those lines other than marching running to cover. There also are no longer any larger-than-life generals that make or break a battle.

    Are there combat tactics in Modern warfare?

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    Seriously, what are you on?

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    They quite obviously do.

    Modern armies are highly trained in various forms of warfare and specific tactics/doctrines to follow when in combat.

    u can see the development of counter-insurgency tactics throughout the iraqi and afghan conflicts (using techs to scramble IED detonators, IED resistant vehicles and the changes that come with patrolling as a result, tactics in defending bases and covering each other so on so forth there really is too much to describe)

    much of ur assumptions appear to be based on believing the world, media and the like would continue to be as interested in their generals as they were in ww2 when propaganda was necessary - there are commanders out there today that are highly respected within military circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperiumiv View Post
    I have a big question. Do modern military tactics even exist? I could be wrong, but it seems like in the late 20th and this century there is no actual combat tactics. It seems like who ever has more guns wins. As far as I know there are no formations or anything along those lines other than marching running to cover. There also are no longer any larger-than-life generals that make or break a battle.

    Are there combat tactics in Modern warfare?
    Umm yes.

    Actually this Thursday I got to teach Juniors, Sophomores and Freshmen how to launch a squad attack...

    And there are formations, such as the Fire team Wedge, Fire Team File, Squad Column, Squad Line, Squad File, and then Platoon formations...

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    Theres more tactics involved than pre-20th century warfare. Warfare is so complex now, what with land ,air and sea being involved, plus technology. Many more factors need to be considered than say in Medieval Warfare. Btw, what a silly question.
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    people often forget the logistics involved in any military undertaking too. it has forever been, and remains, at least half the actual effort of the operations lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    people often forget the logistics involved in any military undertaking too. it has forever been, and remains, at least half the actual effort of the operations lol.
    I agree, the preparation for battle is rarely mention, what with all the transporting of supplies, battle strategy, etc.
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    Its dozens time more complex then ever before, in the medieval ages for example, it was largely restricted to deciding where to attack from and with whom. today theres that and soo much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    Its dozens time more complex then ever before, in the medieval ages for example, it was largely restricted to deciding where to attack from and with whom. today theres that and soo much more.
    ur missing out the taking into consideration of whether god was on ur side or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    ur missing out the taking into consideration of whether god was on ur side or not
    Well, that is part of moral issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Well, that is part of moral issue.
    good ol' god played a role though. hence why so few battles (relatively) were fought in the hundred years war. Nobody engaged when they believed god may not have been on their side...could say thats a 'tactic' of medieval times?

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    weapons are different, supply system are different, enemies are different, of course tactics have to modernize too.
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    oh yes, if god was a general we would all be doomed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperiumiv View Post
    There also are no longer any larger-than-life generals that make or break a battle.
    You do not seem to have a clue as to what 'tactics' as a word entails. (In conventional warfare) A general operates in the strategic and operational sphere; the tactical echelon encompasses small unit elements from (in the US Army) about the battalion task force down to individual soldiers.

    Fire-and-movement? Cover, Concealment, Camouflage? Ambush tactics? Supressive fire? None of this ringing any bells?

    Are there combat tactics in Modern warfare?
    What Farnan said is answer enough.
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    When was the last conventional war between two sides that were relatively even?

    They're probably less notable and publicized when it's Guerilla warfare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    When was the last conventional war between two sides that were relatively even?
    Iran-Iraq? And even that turned into trench warfare and death waves.
    falnk with cavlary. stay a way from muder hoels.

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    there is some tactics in modern warfare.

    modern warfare (from WWI and up) sucks though. it was much better when men fought face to face with each. who knows. may be the star wars laser swords are in production now
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    Quote Originally Posted by MehemtAli_Pasha View Post
    there is some tactics in modern warfare.

    modern warfare (from WWI and up) sucks though. it was much better when men fought face to face with each. who knows. may be the star wars laser swords are in production now
    Not really,

    And people do fight face to face today, unless you think rooms are 200 meters long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Not really,

    And people do fight face to face today, unless you think rooms are 200 meters long.
    but seriously, i have seen some soldiers having bayonets on their AKs. i always thought it was..(can't find the word)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Iran-Iraq? And even that turned into trench warfare and death waves.
    That's what I was thinking.

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