need help with name editing

**ktknx** · October 16, 2009, 12:49 AM

Ive followed the guide step by step and i get the return to the main menu, i did something different tho i added names that weren't in the game originally could this cause the problem? also when i start the game its not converting names.txt to a .bin file >_<

update:
i ran the name checker and there were no errors >_< so all i can think of is that because the .bin file isn't being created I'm being sent back to the main menu?

**Caesar Clivus** · October 16, 2009, 06:42 AM

Just to clarify, did you add the new games to both data\descr_names.txt and data\text\names.txt?

**Gigantus** · October 16, 2009, 09:17 AM

Which guide are you referring to?

**ktknx** · October 16, 2009, 11:00 AM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84637 that is the guide i used, also all the names are in the correct place, i used the name checker to see if there was any errors and there was none

**Gigantus** · October 16, 2009, 01:11 PM

I just reread the thread - if it a crash to menu, then there should be an error message in the log, pointing to the mistake.
Please check and report back.

**ktknx** · October 16, 2009, 03:18 PM

i never even thought about that at all.... its pretty long o

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Gigantus** · October 16, 2009, 08:25 PM

23:12:59.890 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 450, column 1
Couldn't find character records name (Catherine) in the names database
23:12:59.890 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 452, column 1
Couldn't find character records name (Constantine) in the names database
23:12:59.890 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 452, column 27
Couldn`t find spouse Catherine

This means you didn't enter 'Catherine' and 'Constantine' into the data\text\names.txt file

Tip: next time compress the file and attach it here.

**ktknx** · October 16, 2009, 10:10 PM

yeah, i felt like such an ass after i read that, Im using a mod called blood broads and bastards or something like that, when i launch the game with a mod i get sent back to the main menu with this error now

19:59:19.546 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 452, column 46
could not find next child. Children list must be terminated with an end

when i start the game without this mod, none of my family members are in my family tree, and they dont have names, they all show up as blank, here are the files Im using alternativly, if you could just make the required files with the following names that would be cool too, thanks

Names =

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Arthur of York
Aelfgar Hewlinge
Harold Dowell
these names ^^^ are only there because the name checker told me to add them

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 12:01 AM

You are using 'double barrel' names. The way to do that is as follows:

1. in descr_names you enter it like this - notice the underline (character equals first name, surname equals last name):

Code:

character
           Arthur
surnames
           of_York

2. In data\text file you enter it like this:

Code:

{Arthur}Arthur
{of_York}of York

3. In a script or the descr_strat file it goes like this (again the underline):

Code:

Arthur of_York

Summary
You have to avoid using multiple name entries. If you have a 'double barrel' entry, connect it with underline. the important and only visible entry is the one in blue above.

And the look up file is not required anymore, it is a left over from RTW.

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 12:12 AM

thanks for all the help >< i fixed that but im still getting

22:12:00.187 [script.err] [error] Script Error in data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 452, column 46
could not find next child. Children list must be terminated with an end

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 01:38 AM

Look for that line in descr_strat by using Ctrl+G and then adding the line number. A typical line looks like this:

relative William, Matilda, Robert Curthose, Cecilia, Rufus, Henry, end

It appears you did not terminate the line with the entry in red.

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 10:32 AM

there is an end there :/

edit:
also when i start the game without the mod i can get into the actual campaign, no one has names they're all blank and no one is in the family tree

also ive noticed the people being offered to my princess's have names that aren't for my faction and when ever i go into an actual battle it crashes and all the log says is 08:57:10.265 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 01:15 PM

All this looks like a serious mess in the descr_strat file, caused by names.

Compress your log and post it here. Bits and pieces from different 'runs' do not help.

While it is great that you post the errors, it would help tremendously if you would post your corrections or the fault here as well. The log doesn't stipulate errors for nothing (case in point: the child ending)

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 01:55 PM

my log erases every time i start the game for some reason, anyways all i have ever done in the descr_strat is change the names i haven't attempted to do anything else just scrolled down to England and changed the name.

relative Constantine, Teresa, Gabriel, Cecilia, Tiberias, Sebastian. end
i do not know why it says that "end" isn't there when in fact it is

i have uploaded my current decsr_strat, and the log when i start the game with BBB and when i start it without it, also thanks again for the help

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 02:07 PM

The log will be rewritten every time you start a new game, that is normal.

relative Constantine, Teresa, Gabriel, Cecilia, Tiberias, Sebastian. end

I suppose Constantine is a male?
Your error is just behind Sebastian: it is supposed to be a comma, not a full stop.

Edit:
Your attachment is confusing: please only attach what you are working with. Both logs have a variety of errors pointing to names. Please run your modded game, then attach your log, descr_names.txt, text\names.txt and descr_strat.txt

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 02:11 PM

i fixed that but still the same error

uploaded everything you asked for

edit -
forgot a file re uploaded and yes constantine is a male

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 09:15 PM

It appears correct. Only thing I can think of: no tab between Sebastian and end.
Which editor do you use? Wordpad will give problems as it saves some formatting as well, that is unsuitable for data text files.

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 09:58 PM

i use notepad, could i burden you to add the names into the required files and upload them?, also it never converts the names.txt file into a bin file, i also got the names.txt file from the names project, and i cant use the names project either as it gives the same error aswell

**Gigantus** · October 17, 2009, 11:22 PM

The conversion can be achieved with a little trick:
- Take one of the text files from the data\text folder that convert to string.bin format
- Delete everything inside EXCEPT the first line.
- Copy the contents of your text\names file EXCEPT the first line and paste it in the nearly blank file.
- Save as data\text\names and start a game.

Sometimes the first line gets corrupted. This is the header of the database and is needed for conversion.

**ktknx** · October 17, 2009, 11:51 PM

I did as you said and the characters in game have no name except for the princess, and none of them show up in my family tree

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