I say Swiss!![]()
I say Swiss!![]()
Think you can do a little bit better than that as a setup?
Favorite Mercenaries and then randomly listing some Nationalities; no time frame, no conflict, no reason...!?
Yes, rather strange setup with none of the Ancient mercs being listed. English and Dutch mercenaries in larger numbers? When and where did that happen?
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hmm... don't know. Besides from English MA soldiers winning much fame in service of their king, I can't recall them to appear frequently as mercenaries in other crown's armies. Hawkwood's company, for example, was mostly composed of Germans and Italians, ASFAIK.
You better don't swear to it: Edward commanded the English contingent allied to Peter of Castile, so not as a mercenary but as an 'offical' commander of his country's forces.I couldn't swear to it, but I think the Black Prince fought as a mercenary in Spain
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Xenophon's 10,000?
"If I have done any noble action, that is a sufficient memorial; if I have done nothing noble, all the statues in the world will not preserve my memory."
- Agesilaus II of Sparta
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- Isaac Newton
my favorite mercenairy, is Mattais...LOL, but in medieval times, I would say swiss.
"WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter, never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities...they will know: Helghan belongs to the Helghast." -Scholar Visari
If we're talking upto the modern day I'll say 'Mad' Mike Hoare, only because I read his book a long time ago. Also the film "The Wild Geese" was based on his exploits in the Congo.
Hoare was born in Dublin, Ireland. He served in North Africa as an Armour officer in the British Army during World War II, and achieved the rank of Captain. After the war, he emigrated to Durban, South Africa, where he ran safaris and became a soldier-for-hire in various African countries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_HoareDuring the Congo Crisis Mike Hoare organised and led two separate mercenary groups:
The epithet "Mad" Mike Hoare comes from broadcasts by Communist East German radio during the fighting in the Congo in the Sixties. They would precede their commentary with "The mad bloodhound, Mike Hoare".
- 1960–1961. Major Mike Hoare's first mercenary action was in Katanga, a province trying to break away from the newly independent Congo. The unit was called "4 Commando". During this time he married Phyllis Simms, an airline stewardess.
- 1964. Congolese Prime Minister Moïse Tshombe hired "Colonel" Mike Hoare to lead a military unit called "5 Commando (Congo)" made up of about 300 men most of whom were from South Africa. The unit's mission was to fight a breakaway rebel group called Simba. Later Hoare and his mercenaries worked in concert with Belgian paratroopers, Cuban exile pilots, and CIA hired mercenaries who attempted to save 1,600 civilians (mostly Europeans and missionaries) in Stanleyville from the Simba rebels in Operation Dragon Rouge. This operation saved many lives.[1] However, Congolese in Maniema and other provinces remember Hoare's mercenaries driving through villages and shooting randomly at huts and people.
If anybody has seen the film "Wild Geese" they might remember the character played by Hardy Kruger an ex Wehrmacht soldier who wears his Iron Cross whilst in Africa. This character was based on one of Mike Hoares commanders in the Congo, Siegfried 'Congo' Muller.
Siegfried Müller was born in Crossen an der Oder, Germany, now Poland in 1920. After Hitler Youth and Reich Labour Service, Müller joined the Wehrmacht in 1939, fighting in the campaigns in Poland, France, and on the Russian Front. He claimed to end the war as a 1st Lieutenant, but this cannot be verified. He was seriously wounded and captured by the Americans.
Released in 1947, he enlisted in the US Army Civilian Labor Group (CLG), an American Labor Service Unit of Germans; then became a Lieutenant in a CLG security unit. He was denied entry to the Bundeswehr in 1956, but found employment with British Petroleum, clearing mines planted by the Afrika Korps in the Sahara Desert during World War II.
Müller emigrated to the Republic of South Africa in 1962 and was recruited as a mercenary with the rank of Lieutenant for the Congo Crisis in 1964. At 44, Müller was the oldest of Mike Hoare's soldiers.[1]He was promoted to Captain after a successful operation to seize Albertville (now Kalemie) and led 52 Commando, a sub unit of No 5 Commando comprising approximately 50 soldiers. He was later promoted to Major.
Siegfried 'Congo' Muller.
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Lol, you are not happened to be boofhead's best friend right (We have a discussion about how to improve Africa last year and we all favor a military interception; boofhead used Mike Hoares as example and said he was his favor)??
Either way, for mercenary history in modern Africa, "Mercenaries" by Guy Arnold would be a good reading, despite he is heavily biased against mercenaries and ignored the brutality mercenaries did were also common, if not worse, done by both government and rebel troops.
The Catalan Company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Company
(...) and that unfortunate People were afterwards forced to undergo the utmost Miseries of a Siege, in their Capital City of Barcelona; during which, great Multitudes of them perished by Famine and the Sword, many of them have since been executed; and great Numbers of the Nobility of Catalonia, who, for their Constancy and Bravery in Defence of their Liberties, and for their Services in Conjunction with Her Majesty and Her Allies, had, in all Honour, Justice, and Conscience, the highest Claim to Her Majesty's Protection, are now dispersed in Dungeons throughout the Spanish Dominions.
-Journal of the House of Lords: volume 20: 1714-1717, pp. 136-144.
No Italian condottieri? No Catalan company? No most famous of all, king John of Bohemia? Sir you have little knowledge of mercenaries then. Of Italian condotierri I would go for Giovanni Acuto, but generaly my favourite mercenary is of course blind king John of Bohemia, example of honour and virtue.
Blackwater
I voted for the "German" category, because ... well, I love the Hessians and earlier Landsknechts.![]()
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Let's put it this way: If you were a peaseant in medieval Europe (or modern Africa, just look at that nazi guy), you wouldn't want to meet any mercenaries.
Optio, Legio I Latina
oh, and I like gesteate....boy are those guys good...I mean, it like "you can be covered with great armor and I can STILL whoop your but without even skibbies!'
"WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter, never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities...they will know: Helghan belongs to the Helghast." -Scholar Visari
Swiss mercenaries. They ruled the mid 15th - early 16th century battlefields of Europe.
Under the noble patronage of Jimkatalanos
Modern age I like Swiss, but in Ancient, I say Illyrians, or Aegenians.![]()
His highness, şeşurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
Whatever Croatian mercenary company wore a tie in Paris, thus starting a new era a wearing ties in the World, thus actually making biggest impact on history then all other mercenaries![]()
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