The Religious Crusades: 30 years war Total war

[Frederich Barbarossa]

Greetings Sire!


Welcome to the proposed mod The Religious Crusades. (Name is temporary) This is the upcoming mod made by Selucia Gaming Group and is our first mod so don't except so much, but do expect a good one... I hope. Well this mod is based on the legendary 30 years war where gunpowder is first seen, and so is the typical grenadier, or even 18th century musketeer units that are in Empire total war.

Factions list


*Sweden
*Dutch Republic
*France
*Scotland
*England
*Holy Roman Empire
*Hungary
*Spanish Empire
*Russia
*Ottoman Empire
*Papal States
*Republic of Venice
*Florence
*Savoy
*Genoa
*Verona
*Mantua
*Milan
*Poland-Lithuania
*Portugal
*Sharifate of Marrakesh
*Ireland

Date Start; Date Ends


Turn 1: 1600
Turn 300: 1675

Turns go by seasons. Spring-Summer-Fall-Winter. 4 turns per year.

Map and Terrain Changes


Italy will recieve numerous city changes, rather then terrain. New cities such as Mantua, Verona, Turin, etc will be incoorperated into the original medieval II map. As for regions such as the baltic, we will see new cities such as Konigsberg, Danzic, etc, etc. We will also be seeing new cities in Russia too. Spain will also recieve new cities like Madrid, Santander, Bilbao, Mayorca, etc. Terrain will not change.

New Units


Medieval Units will be scratched of the list of all factions. Now only late units will be accepted. This mod will highly concentrate on early gunpowder technology and pikes.

New Factions/Flags


New factions are usually popping up in the Italian area, do to our recreation of the renaissance. Also most factions have only recieved name changes for example 'Poland-Lithuania', to try to portray the time period correctly. Others such as 'The Dutch Republic', are new and will have new researched units.

Technology

Technology starts of as primitive gunpowder technology, generally will Arquebuisters, but may as well end up with French musketeers for example.



Thats it for now I will draw the map with provinces soon to give you an idea of how this will turn out! Many thanks!

Game Map Format



Provinces

Portugal 3 regions

Lisboa (Capital)
Lagos
Porto

Spain 17 regions

Madrid (Capital)
Toledo
Leon
Santander
Bilbao
Zaragosa
Barcelona
Valencia
Corduba
Grenada
Mayorca
Cagliari
Benevento
Napoli
Messana
Palermo
Calabria

England 6 Provinces

London (Capital)
Plymouth
Coventry
Cardiff
Liverpool
York

(Error I will fix later Edinburgh looks ENglish but its scottish)

Ireland 4 Provinces

Dublin (Capital)
Belfast
Cork
Western Ireland

France 11 Provinces

Paris (Capital)
Cannae
Dunkirque
Rheims
Dijon
Lyon
Marseille
Toulouse
Bordeaux
Angers
Brest

Holy Roman Empire 20 Provinces

Frankfurt (Capital)
Aachen
Koln
Luxembourgh
Bruxelles
Ardennes
Stuttgart
Wurttemberg
Munchen
Dresden
Brandenberg
Mecklemberg
Hamberg
Bremen
Hanover
Saltzburg
Wien
Innsburg
Linz
Bohemia

Helvetica (Non-Playable) 2 Provinces

Bern (Capital)
Zurich

Dutch Republic 3 Provinces

Amsterdam (Capital)
Rotterdam
Northern Holland

Milan (May be 2 or 1 it does not show in map)

Milan (Capital)
Turin (Maybe)

Republic of Genoa 1 Province

Genoa (Capital)

Corsica

Ajjacio (Capital)

Hungary 2 Provinces

Budapest (Capital)
Debrecen

Papacy 2 Provinces

Roma (Capital)
Bologna

City State of Mantua 1 Province

Mantua (Capital)

City State of Verona 1 Province

Verona (Capital)

Fiorenza 2 Province

Fiorenza (Capital)
Pisa

Most Serene Republic of Venezia 3 Provinces

Venezia (Capital)
Corinth
Iraklium

Milan 1 Province

Milan (Capital)

Prussia 1 Province

Konigsberg

Poland-Lithuania 10 Provinces

Warsawa (Capital)
Krakow
Danzic
Lodz
Dilna
Riga
Smolensk
Lubin
Eastern Poland
Northern Poland

Tsardom of Russia 8 Provinces

Moscuv (Capital)
Don Cossac
Kashikstan (maybe)
Volgograd (maybe)
Kharkov
Baltic Russia
Kiev
Urals

Ottoman Empire 34 Provinces

Constantinople (Capital)
Heraclea
Trebizond
Armenia
Ankara
Izmir
Cyprus
Konich
Cappadocia
Kurdistan
Baghdad
Antioch
Damascus
Jerusalem
Jordan
Tunis
Constantine
Algiers
Western Algeria
Kavala
Sofia
Salonika
Athinai
Albania
Belgrade
Dalmatia
Zagreb
Constanza
Bucharest
Transylvania
Wallachia
Moldavia
Stevastopol

Denmark 5 Provinces

Copenhagen (Capital)
Aarnus
Aalborg
Oslo
Trollheim (Maybe)

Scotland 3 Provinces

Edinburgh (Capital)
Inverness
Aberdeen

Sharifate of Marrakesh 3 Provinces

Marrakesh (Capital)
Tangiers
Fez

Sweden 3 Provinces

Stockholm (Capital)
Calamar
Christina (maybe)

Savoy

Nice (Capital)

[Frederich Barbarossa]

forgot to mention I need a moderating team. I dunno if this helps but I am the son of a computer programer and one myself. He worked for a Bank, and taught me the basics. DUnno

[TheHappyCrusader]

Looking good, hope this mod works out for ya'

[Frederich Barbarossa]

Thanks I hope so too, but I only need man power for it to actually work. Units aren't a trouble, because Arquebuisters are the main backbone of the army throughout the 17th century, maybe place some armor on them, but in general it wont be hard. The game will have that, new factions, regions, etc...

[Frederich Barbarossa]

update: Units for each faction will probably number around 10 per faction. All factions will have the same basic units, but will have unique units for infantry, auxilia, and cavalry, but artillery is all same, depending on factions.

Ottoman Empire: Moderate infantry, but weak missle cavalry, and cavalry. Powerful but slow firing Artillery.


Infantry

Peasants
Arab Warriors
Ottoman Infantry
Janissary Pikemen
Heavy Janissaries

Auxilia

Peasant Archers
Desert Archers
Voyniks
Janissaries

Missle Cavalry

Desert Lancers
Camel Gunners
Elephant Gunners

Cavalry


Arab Cavalry
Desert Cavalry
Ottoman Cavalry
Gen. Bodyguard

Artillery

Bombard
Cannon
Monster Bombard


England: Excellent Infantry, and Cavalry, but an amateur collection of missle units.


Infantry

Peasants
Sherwood Hunters
Welsh Spearmen
Sergeant Spearmen
Pikemen
English Swordsmen

Auxilia

Peasant Archers
Welsh Longbows
Arquebusiers
Musketeers

Missle Cavalry

Lancers
Dragoons

Cavalry

Light Cavalry
English Knights
Noblemen
Gen. Bodyguard

Artillery

Bombard
Culverin
Cannon
Basilisk
Mortar


Holy Roman Empire: Excellent Infantry, and gunpowder units. Poor Cavalry, and a small selection of MC but deadly.


Infantry

Peasants
Spear Militia
Sergeant Spearmen
Billmen
Imperial Knights
Forlorn Hope

Auxilia

Peasant Archers
Bavarian Archers
Crossbow
Arquebusiers
Armoured Musketeers

Missle Cavalry

Lancers
Mounted Crossbows
Reiters

Cavalry

Light Cavalry
Imperial Knights
Gen. Bodyguard

Artillery

Bombard
Culverin
Cannon
Basilisk
Mortar



France:


Infantry

Peasants
Spear Militia
Sergeant Spearmen
Voulgor Pikemen
Billmen
Musketeer Swordsmen

Auxilia

Peasant Archers
Crossbows
Arquebusiers
Imperial Musketeers

Missle Cavalry

Lancers
Mounted Crossbows
Dragoons

Cavalry

Light Cavalry
French Knights
French Nobles
Gen. Bodyguards

Artillery

Bombard
Culverin
Cannon
Basilisk
Mortar


I am trying to make this as easy as possible, so what I am doing is keeping lots of units, eliminating a lot to, but making it minimal to recreate more. What is good is that medieval already has many 17th century units believe it or not.

[Condottiere SOG]

Awesome Idea! but please let the pikemen keep their swords...I fixed the problem once and for all.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2634

BTW, the earliest reports of gunpowder were out of Italy - obscure - 1287CE - 17 years after the return of Marco Polo. The first reported use in a European battle was around 1340CE.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

Awesome Idea! but please let the pikemen keep their swords...I fixed the problem once and for all.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2634

BTW, the earliest reports of gunpowder were out of Italy - obscure - 1287CE - 17 years after the return of Marco Polo. The first reported use in a European battle was around 1340CE.

Don't worry Pikemen will have secondary weapons, as in swords. In some factions I will included swordsmen and crossbows, since they were used well after the developement of Gunpowder. I will just need to research events to put from 1600-1675. Thanks for the comments. This will come out in december, I am trying to make it as light as possible for me, but different from Medieval, in units, more then territory...

[absinthia]

Denmark 5 Provinces

Trollheim (Maybe)

Sweden 3 Provinces

Calamar
Christina (maybe)

jut thought you liked to know:
Trollheim = Trondheim
Calamar = Kalmar
Christina = Christiania/Kristiania(from 1877) = name for Oslo between 1624 and 1925.

you might also consider the silver mines of Kongsberg. while it was an unsubstantial settlement it is assumed to have delivered 1,350 tonnes (3,000,000 lb) of silver between 1623, and 1957. in 1686 the Norwegian Royal Mint was established in Kongsberg.

[Horsa]

An interesting idea. Although this mod has almost exactly the same name as you.

[Dewy]

An interesting idea. Although this mod has almost exactly the same name as you.

For King or Country: The English Civil War.

Lets cut out the The English Civil War bit and have a look at it.

For King or Country

For King and Country

notice the difference? For King or Country means for the king or making the country better (civil war get it?) For king and country on the other hand is a common English battle cry.

[Horsa]

For King or Country

For King and Country

lol, so your saying they don't sound the same?
I'm just saying maybe a new name would be good.

Not to mention England isn't even on the map.

[Dewy]

lol, so your saying they don't sound the same?
I'm just saying maybe a new name would be good.

Not to mention England isn't even on the map.

Your not good with your eyes are you. England is on the map check the north west

[Frederich Barbarossa]

jut thought you liked to know:
Trollheim = Trondheim
Calamar = Kalmar
Christina = Christiania/Kristiania(from 1877) = name for Oslo between 1624 and 1925.

you might also consider the silver mines of Kongsberg. while it was an unsubstantial settlement it is assumed to have delivered 1,350 tonnes (3,000,000 lb) of silver between 1623, and 1957. in 1686 the Norwegian Royal Mint was established in Kongsberg.

Thanks I will seek to it!

[Lord Willy]

Great idea!
Good Luck + rep

[Frederich Barbarossa]

Guys this mod will pull through and will be done as fast as possible, by January. Our programming skills will help us. I just need helpers so join my team. I especially need 3d modlers.

[The Bruce]

Great ideas here but I would urge you to change the name.

For King or Country is a respected, ambitious and well established mod. Your proposal has got an almost identical name (no matter how you justify it) and changing the title at this early stage would not be a big deal surely?

It would help establish your identity and prevent any perceived disrespect to fellow modders.

[Horsa]

Great ideas here but I would urge you to change the name.

For King or Country is a respected, ambitious and well established mod. Your proposal has got an almost identical name (no matter how you justify it) and changing the title at this early stage would not be a big deal surely?

It would help establish your identity and prevent any perceived disrespect to fellow modders.

Finally, someone agrees with me.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

ok ok

[Frederich Barbarossa]

How do you change topic title???

[absinthia]

How do you change topic title???

edit the post, go advanced, then you should be able to change topic.