What about the old Dale units

**Duke_Dutch** · October 05, 2009, 10:51 AM

What is going the happen with them? I mean, they where not so bad at all.

It would be a waste to remove those units, al the work for nothing.

What do you think?

**Evan MF** · October 05, 2009, 10:59 AM

I think they were purpously made to be temporary, besides they are no where near the quality of the new ones, they wouldn't fit quality-wise.

**Beregond** · October 05, 2009, 11:01 AM

they will go into oblivion

**TheCrakFox** · October 05, 2009, 11:56 AM

If you really want to, you can just keep on playing 1.2 [

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**Muffer Nl** · October 05, 2009, 12:49 PM

I think they were purpously made to be temporary, besides they are no where near the quality of the new ones, they wouldn't fit quality-wise.

No they were not. They were made by a beginning modeler.

**Lordinquisitor** · October 05, 2009, 01:50 PM

Well, i could see some of them added as rebels.. But most of them will fade into oblivion.

Ofc some submodders might find them usefull for adding a new faction.

**Warmaster Tibs** · October 05, 2009, 03:01 PM

I wondered why they dident get some of the rebel units, both them and Eriador. The city guard and most other rebels looked realy well done.

**P|A|ntZ** · October 05, 2009, 03:06 PM

They'll be taken to a nice farm in the extreme north of Ered Lindon and set to roam free. They'll be happier there.

**Jean=A=Luc** · October 05, 2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by P|A|ntZ

They'll be taken to a nice farm in the extreme north of Ered Lindon and set to roam free. They'll be happier there.

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**Warmaster Tibs** · October 05, 2009, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc

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Dont be so mean. Theyre just sleeping....THEYRE JUST SLEEPING!!

**Darkhorse** · October 05, 2009, 03:56 PM

I think using them as mercenary or rebel units would be a good idea.

**Anibal at portas** · October 05, 2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Darkhorse

I think using them as mercenary or rebel units would be a good idea.

the old units of dale and eriador must be eliminated of the mod and forgotten forever.

**maxi90** · October 05, 2009, 08:48 PM

dome of the units were quite good. i gues that with some details fixed they could be mercs.

**Hambone** · October 05, 2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anibal at portas

the old units of dale and eriador must be eliminated of the mod and forgotten forever.

Originally Posted by gewehr36

The old Dale units are horrible in my opinion. I would like to play Dale but the units prevent me from playing it.

Those who cannot do criticize I suppose...

**that guy with the hair** · October 06, 2009, 01:19 AM

I don't really want to make the modeler for the old Dale units feel bad (I have basically no modding talent whatsoever actually), but when I send the incredibly awesome looking elite Rhun units against Dale... They do not compare well at all, it's like night and day in terms of quality.

**Muffer Nl** · October 06, 2009, 05:08 AM

That´s why we get somke new units, from KK!

**Shocked** · October 06, 2009, 06:08 AM

I think that of the knights of esagoroth were done up a bit more they would be a good unit

**trance** · October 06, 2009, 02:21 PM

What the fudge's up with some people? There seem to be this "nice-white-knight" thing going on amongst some of the community, seeming to have an extreme need to constantly remark upon people not liking Kretchet's work with some really old arguments. Listen, sure, we all owe kretchet respect for completing those two factions, else the mod would have been postponed by several months, but that is no excuse to rabidly hold on to the work he did. It's simply not on the same level as the other models and thus does not fit in the mod. Now at last these factions are being remade to match the quality of the rest of the models, thus vastly improving Eriador and Dale (once both respective factions are completed). Kretchets models had very little basis in Tolkien's world, while KK and DG tend to have a more lore correct approach - with either basis in ideas/suggestions found in the books or the movies - or if not available, a Middle-earth interpretation of medieval items and themse, which is largely what both the remade Eriador and to even greater extent the new Dale is.