Early Bohemian Units Preview

[toluas]

Great work!

[Kjertesvein]

Its good preview with alot of unit pictures, alltho it could include more, I like em.

[IVIarkI2I]

haha cool guys congratulations but they seems a bit Russian lookign to me not czech also the names of untis are written in modern Czech right ressuerection I think they were a bit diffrent before 1000 years

[Walkman810i]

haha cool guys congratulations but they seems a bit Russian lookign to me not czech also the names of untis are written in modern Czech right ressuerection I think they were a bit diffrent before 1000 years

Now you're being waaaay too picky

[pacco]

haha cool guys congratulations but they seems a bit Russian lookign to me not czech also the names of untis are written in modern Czech right ressuerection I think they were a bit diffrent before 1000 years

Again your sarcasm!

[Resurrection]

I think they were a bit diffrent before 1000 years

Of course, because they were in Latin... :-) For instance word "Lučištníci" (Archers) would be "Sagitarzi" (no diacritics before Hus!), which comes from Latin term for Shooter "Sagittarius". "Knížecí družina" (Prince's Suit) was referred to only as Comes/Nobiles or more generally Milites Primi (First ranks, referring to their position in battle line). Organizing soldiers in units of similar type and giving them names is not historical anyway and thus no relevant name could be found for them. All regulars, not noble soldiers, like Frontier Guards and Bohemian Archers for instance would be in history referred to simply as Milites Secundi (Second ranks, referring to their position in battle line). Historical sources don't even give us estimated numbers nor description of participants of Milites Secundi in battles. In really old written Czech the "Strážci hranic" (Frontier Guards) would be something like "Ostrzihacsi Pomezi", but that would be invented name anyway.

Altough Czech originates in early 9th century as an independent language, it was used in written form only from 14th century onwards. That basically means that my name examples above would be some 250 years off anyway since we have no clue how written Czech could have looked in 1080 if there was any in the first place.

We had a discussion about the use of languages and there were basically three options. For one we could fo with English only, which would not be very historical nor immersive at all. On the other hand it would be understood perfectly by everyone. The second choice was to go exactly with history and pierce our mod with Latin. Yet noone speaks Latin and aside from obvious difficulties when getting all names in Latin it would really achieve nothing in our opinion. So we've gone with third choice - modern native languages. The reason was simply that we want anyone playing the faction to get immersed in it and to learn something about it starting with some words in its language - unit names, faction names, character names etc. Obviously all descriptions will be in English and sometimes those names will have bracketed English name for better orientation.

Perhaps you think it not that sensible choice, but it was very well thought through and it will work very well, you can be sure of that.

So hopefully I have shed some light on this matter :-) It's insanely complicated and complex matter so we wanted to deal with it in most reasonable way...

[RottenTree]

That's cool with me maybe I will learn something from gaming.
After all watching a lot of Cartoon Network helped me to get the hang of English easier

[gewehr36]

Oh I see, it was a joke. We only really used the face textures from Rusichi, but it seems those same four guys really get around. Or maybe it was just their fathers that did.

They are very promiscuous.

[S-te-Fan]

Yeah, that does look weird. I've noticed it before, but I just thought it was game engine weirdness. Bone assignments are not fun to work with; it took me forever to get those long cloaks to move correctly. You've modded the Rusichi models before, right? Do you know what about the bone assignments in the arm I need to fix?

I laugh in your general direction. Bone assignments are easy .

[sumskilz]

I laugh in your general direction. Bone assignments are easy .

I bet they are in Max, but they are really time consuming to test with in Milkshape. I can change them easy enough, but they never seem to work right in the game. Then again, what bones do you assign a cloak to in order to make it look right? Should I send you that model so you can straighten it out for me?

Don't you need to go stick your finger in a dyke somewhere to save all of Holland?

[IVIarkI2I]

Now you're being waaaay too picky

Again your sarcasm!

I was just surprised when I saw those in czech , just stay calm guys

Of course, because they were in Latin... :-) For instance word "Lučištníci" (Archers) would be "Sagitarzi" (no diacritics before Hus!), which comes from Latin term for Shooter "Sagittarius". "Knížecí družina" (Prince's Suit) was referred to only as Comes/Nobiles or more generally Milites Primi (First ranks, referring to their position in battle line). Organizing soldiers in units of similar type and giving them names is not historical anyway and thus no relevant name could be found for them. All regulars, not noble soldiers, like Frontier Guards and Bohemian Archers for instance would be in history referred to simply as Milites Secundi (Second ranks, referring to their position in battle line). Historical sources don't even give us estimated numbers nor description of participants of Milites Secundi in battles. In really old written Czech the "Strážci hranic" (Frontier Guards) would be something like "Ostrzihacsi Pomezi", but that would be invented name anyway.

Altough Czech originates in early 9th century as an independent language, it was used in written form only from 14th century onwards. That basically means that my name examples above would be some 250 years off anyway since we have no clue how written Czech could have looked in 1080 if there was any in the first place.

We had a discussion about the use of languages and there were basically three options. For one we could fo with English only, which would not be very historical nor immersive at all. On the other hand it would be understood perfectly by everyone. The second choice was to go exactly with history and pierce our mod with Latin. Yet noone speaks Latin and aside from obvious difficulties when getting all names in Latin it would really achieve nothing in our opinion. So we've gone with third choice - modern native languages. The reason was simply that we want anyone playing the faction to get immersed in it and to learn something about it starting with some words in its language - unit names, faction names, character names etc. Obviously all descriptions will be in English and sometimes those names will have bracketed English name for better orientation.

Perhaps you think it not that sensible choice, but it was very well thought through and it will work very well, you can be sure of that.

So hopefully I have shed some light on this matter :-) It's insanely complicated and complex matter so we wanted to deal with it in most reasonable way...

coool man never know thx I think the third choice is good idea keep it coming

[MorganH.]

Brilliantly Amazing Work!
+rep
greetings

[Neige]

Wow! Looking great!

[Woden]

Nice preview!!!!

[Samariten]

Really nice work and im glad you are doing what seems a totally rework of all units, the vanilla MTWII are really bad keep up the good work..

[knight_12]

AMAZING !!!

[Nikephorus16]

Don't you need to go stick your finger in a dyke somewhere to save all of Holland?

Is this supposed to be sexual?

[sumskilz]

Is this supposed to be sexual?

No, no, no... haven't you ever heard the folk tale about the Dutch boy who saved all of Holland? Well, Stefanke is a Dutch boy.

Okay, it is extra funny because of the double meaning in English, but that can just be an inside joke.

[G-Megas-Doux]

Back on topic. Yep, I'm impressed. Good veriaty. They should entertain in game.

[Bivoj]

Really nice, but archers look like dwarves with their hats

And what about "práčata" - boys with slings, who bombard enemy cavalry with stones and frighten their horses???