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    MAGNA MUNDI PLATINUM 2 v1.0 (2/10/2009)





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    Install instructions


    1) Install EU3, Napoleon’s Ambition and In Nominee.

    2) Update In Nominee to latest BETA version 3.2

    3) You should see a mod pull-down option in the launcher (it should say "default" to begin with).

    4) Extract the MMP2.exe file to your EU3/mod directory.

    4.1) Make sure that before extracting, you delete all content from any previous version of Magna Mundi from the mod directory.

    4.2) After extracting, make sure that you see a file with a MagnaMundiPlatinum2.MOD extension in that directory. If you don't, you should move the directories so the MagnaMundiPlatinum.MOD is in EU3/mod and there is a MagnaMundiPlatinum directory right after it (in EU3/mod/MagnaMundi2).

    5) Delete your vanilla game map cache before starting the mod for the first time after install. This can be done by going to your standard Europa Universalis III folder, then opening the maps folder and then deleting the cache folder (and ONLY the cache folder). To put it simply, the folder that must be deleted is eu3/map/cache.

    6) If you prefer the vanilla map, please use the oldmap.bat file included and answer yes to all questions. If your computer implodes, explodes, disapears in the void or otherwise gets "Framed!" while at 0 reputation, this time it is not Ubik's fault.

    7) If you have a big coastal empire and prefer a less intruding pirate system, there is a file in the extras folder. This system gives a performance hit, though...















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    Excellent downloading now...
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    Nice.
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    I have EU Collections ordered, so I may check this out. Can anyone give me a brief appraisal of it, please?

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    Never tried MM before, started up as Portugal (as the manual said ), and a few months in, I get a message that i'm a landlocked country...

    Think i'll wait another few weeks before trying again
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    Hey are Framed! and the barbary Pirates events removed or not because otherwise I aint touching this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    Never tried MM before, started up as Portugal (as the manual said ), and a few months in, I get a message that i'm a landlocked country...

    Think i'll wait another few weeks before trying again
    Yeh, me too. I'm pretty pissed about that.

    And ubik's response is it hardly ever happens and goes away after a few months.

    I notice venixia and the german one are like the only center of trade worth anything nowdays (because all the other non small countries have massive production effeciancy negative modifiers).

    and piracy is really nasty too. I think it might just be that I haven't got my head around it though. Here's waiting for the whole landlocked issue to be fixed and the manual to come out before playing again.

    Administrative efficiency is also pretty bugged. It keeps switching between the minor bonus one and the -10% negative one or sometimes a the minor negative one and a better positive one. Still... being at -10% negative one for a while in a war (and not because of your king, because of a bug) is nasty.
    Last edited by Darkarbiter; October 04, 2009 at 03:03 AM.

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    Just tried this and I'm not surprised to see this mod is as bad as ever. It's not like the removal of the bugs would make it any better though; if Ubik is going to fill up and slow down the game with all these triggers and events that penalise the player for doing ANYTHING then he may as well just have one event called " you" which could do the work of all of them. I mean hell I'm penalised for having pirates in my coastal provinces, penalised for defending my coastal provinces but also penalised for NOT HAVING coastal provinces.

    A system of constant penalties is not good design.

    Guess I'll wait for the next version of fun2mmp to come out because while MM has some very good ideas they're all brought down by stupid decisions like the stuff I mentioned above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarbiter View Post
    Yeh, me too. I'm pretty pissed about that.

    And ubik's response is it hardly ever happens and goes away after a few months.

    Actually, I thought it was my fault instead of yours. don't play with lucky nations off. To enjoy Magna Mundi you should not touch the game options.


    I notice venixia and the german one are like the only center of trade worth anything nowdays (because all the other non small countries have massive production effeciancy negative modifiers).
    Yes, if you play with the lucky nations off.

    and piracy is really nasty too.
    Enact proper policies against piracy. Otherwie it will devolve into a cuthroat environment.


    Administrative efficiency is also pretty bugged. It keeps switching between the minor bonus one and the -10% negative one or sometimes a the minor negative one and a better positive one. Still... being at -10% negative one for a while in a war (and not because of your king, because of a bug) is nasty.

    AE was never bugged. Play using lucky nations on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubik View Post
    Actually, I thought it was my fault instead of yours. don't play with lucky nations off. To enjoy Magna Mundi you should not touch the game options.

    AE was never bugged. Play using lucky nations on.
    Only just found out about lucky nations after looking through the forums for ages though. The manual wasn't terribly helpful. Been great since then and since the 1.1 patch

    The AE problems seem to have gone with the 1.1 patch btw. Things are working well now.

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    im disappointed at MM. its just too much going on at once, too much spam on the screen when im busy trying to do other things. I find it more like work than "fun". especially as poor old england. i feel exactly like Chuffy does. If he would just tone all these events down and have then less often. i think it would be imrpvoed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    Never tried MM before, started up as Portugal (as the manual said ), and a few months in, I get a message that i'm a landlocked country...

    Think i'll wait another few weeks before trying again

    You need to have lucky nations on for Magna Mundi to work properly. That is clearly stated in the manual.

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    Just tried this and I'm not surprised to see this mod is as bad as ever. It's not like the removal of the bugs would make it any better though; if Ubik is going to fill up and slow down the game with all these triggers and events that penalise the player for doing ANYTHING then he may as well just have one event called " you" which could do the work of all of them. I mean hell I'm penalised for having pirates in my coastal provinces, penalised for defending my coastal provinces but also penalised for NOT HAVING coastal provinces.
    Granted i'm not a MM player, but the whole intrigue of the game is in those events. The idea that the political system is very balanced. The idea that its very difficult to build a large Empire by game end unless you're one of the big players to start with, and even then a WC is impossible.

    Really, my major interest in this game is learning it enough to take a small duchy or principality and doing something with them, because it'll be one of the hardest games i'll ever play and by the end I probably still won't be the biggest power in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    Granted i'm not a MM player, but the whole intrigue of the game is in those events. The idea that the political system is very balanced. The idea that its very difficult to build a large Empire by game end unless you're one of the big players to start with, and even then a WC is impossible.

    Really, my major interest in this game is learning it enough to take a small duchy or principality and doing something with them, because it'll be one of the hardest games i'll ever play and by the end I probably still won't be the biggest power in the world.
    The problem is MM goes to far in many areas and its goal of HISTORICAL PLAUSIBLE OUTCOMES BLAH BLAH leads to some ing stupid . How did the renaissance happen when every Christian nation in the Mediterranean had their economies destroyed by barbary pirates all the time year after year? Why do these s still appear even if I invade and convert all of north africa? I'll go back to the new pirates system; no matter what I do I have a negative modifier applied to me in any of the 3 choices I face (let pirates roam/fight pirates/stay landlocked). So really where is the incentive to do anything if all I'll face is penalties? Why bother? MAYBE fighting them shouldn't be so taxing on the province so while it does cost you something its better than just saying ' it' and not bothering because any choice you face will be pointless and the same.

    Oh but wait that sounds like a sound design decision that increases challenge while still keeping things fun which is the exact opposite of MM. Nevermind then. Hail Ubik.

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    Sorry but -7% trade efficiency like a quarter of the time and -50 docuts once a while isn't the total destruction of your economy. I disagree with most of the other stuff said against it, it's a great game, it's just it's a bit buggy atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarbiter View Post
    Sorry but -7% trade efficiency like a quarter of the time and -50 docuts once a while isn't the total destruction of your economy. I disagree with most of the other stuff said against it, it's a great game, it's just it's a bit buggy atm
    Most of the stuff directly implemented by Ubik is either bad or done poorly (despite maybe being a good idea). The other mods that are a part of it and the work other team members have done is actually really good. You either fix or remove Ubik's stuff and MM is great.

    Which is basically what fun2MMP is anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarbiter View Post
    Sorry but -7% trade efficiency like a quarter of the time and -50 docuts once a while isn't the total destruction of your economy. I disagree with most of the other stuff said against it, it's a great game, it's just it's a bit buggy atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    Aaaaaand the first patch is out! Linky
    I already got two campaigns started and it's great. Don't listen to Chuffy, he has no idea what he's talking about.
    No I'm pretty sure I do as I explained my problems with the mod quite thoroughly. The very idea of the barbary Pirates as they are in game goes completely against the whole 'plausible alternate realities' MM strives for. As a Muslim power you have no way to control them and as a Christian you basically have to wait until you're at a high tech level before they disappear for no reason at all. You have no options to reduce or remove the effects by taking over enclaves in north africa or indeed taking it ALL over; the barbary pirate events will happen regardless.

    I could say similar things about the pirates system (which i did above) but the pirate system in EU3 will be terrible no matter what unfortunately. Maybe the new xp will change the system drastically although to be honest I've always seen the tariff system as representing piracy anyway. Much better than playing naval whack a mole or having an event that tells you to go yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuffy View Post
    No I'm pretty sure I do as I explained my problems with the mod quite thoroughly. The very idea of the barbary Pirates as they are in game goes completely against the whole 'plausible alternate realities' MM strives for. As a Muslim power you have no way to control them and as a Christian you basically have to wait until you're at a high tech level before they disappear for no reason at all. You have no options to reduce or remove the effects by taking over enclaves in north africa or indeed taking it ALL over; the barbary pirate events will happen regardless.
    Neither could any one in history, there is a reason why the Barbary pirates disappeared in the XIX century with the invention of more advanced communication systems and not earlier. Even Spain at the hight of it's power could do little about them. And you wouldn't be able to destroy them in real life without capturing, converting and coring all their provinces. Which is nigh impossible in MMP2. So yea, you have no idea what you'r talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuffy View Post
    I could say similar things about the pirates system (which i did above) but the pirate system in EU3 will be terrible no matter what unfortunately. Maybe the new xp will change the system drastically although to be honest I've always seen the tariff system as representing piracy anyway. Much better than playing naval whack a mole or having an event that tells you to go yourself.
    The new system is much better than the old way pirates are handled in EU3, and it's actually rather sensible when you start to understand why it's happening and what can affect it.
    Last edited by Valentin the II; October 05, 2009 at 08:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuffy View Post
    No I'm pretty sure I do as I explained my problems with the mod quite thoroughly. The very idea of the barbary Pirates as they are in game goes completely against the whole 'plausible alternate realities' MM strives for. As a Muslim power you have no way to control them and as a Christian you basically have to wait until you're at a high tech level before they disappear for no reason at all. You have no options to reduce or remove the effects by taking over enclaves in north africa or indeed taking it ALL over; the barbary pirate events will happen regardless.
    Capturing north African provinces greatly reduces the barbary pirates events.

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