Civis
Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Hello fellow DLVers,
Is there any way of modifying how the reputation works in DLV? I always: occupy settlements, release prisoners and honour alliances (except when my allies stupidly attack one another) yet my reputation after 100 turns or so is dubious! I looked through the reputations of the other factions and they were all worse than untrustworthy - wouldn't it be nice to have some reliable AI factions?
Any insight would be gratefully received.
Remember to smile
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Neh,,..
I remember Repman implaced a new diplomacy AI when it comes to things like Reputations, etc. He asked for reply, but that faded away. You should search for it, and ask the author of the new AI used in DLV. How to regulated it etc.
I personaly don't really care about reputation any more, atleast when it comes to the new Archeon alliance mod + the neutral diplomacy. If you select the right options, then you can easily make alliance with every naighbour, then your safe.
I now have (some what) safe borders, and that is what I care about. I play as Turkey, and over a decade of ful out war with Desert tribes. They were in the end worn out and asked me for an cease-fire. I guess I grew powerful enuff to intimidate them. From Baghdad, via Antioch to Constantinople. 30 000 fresh florins in the pocket/ą turn + 10 in the bank. Before that they were hording heavy. I had to use everything; the land to defend (bridges, mountain passes, lakes, etc.), (fudal militia) forts ready for action, etc.
Read more about reputation in the Strategos and Magistratus.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Originally Posted by Finn
Ordinarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
I found this Archeon Alliance Mod that was mentioned, however, my searches for this "Neutral Diplomacy" mod has come up empty, does anyone know what mod is that? and the link to it?
thanks,
Protector Domesticus
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Look in the world folder then campaign and the descr_strat at the verybottom explains the diplomacy of your reputation. it seems that those who you ally with also have a part in your reliability for instance: france might love everyone but flanders might be constantly attacking it and sacking it's cities. if your in alliance with flanders while they are doing this and don't break the alliance it makes you look bad, thus your reputaion is hurt. pick and choose your allies carefully. if they are troublemakers its better tot stay neutral.
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Interesting, I did not know this.
Also, you get positive reputation points when you break a treaty with a diplomat before you attack...
I have also heard the use of assassins and bribing, may also hurt your reputation. Not so sure at all about these two though!
Civis
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
DLV 6.2 vanilla...
I was attacked by two allies playing with the Byzantines.
I do not know why ... I was attacked by the Hungarians and Armenians.
I think it was because my reputation has fallen too.
They were my allies and the alliance was broken by military attack.
Nothing diplomats ...
Civis
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
I think the Archeon alliance mod is not working properly.
During the plague of my most significant allies attacked me.
Georgians, Hungarians and Armenians. All for a military attack without any diplomatic intervention.
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Hmmm should I mention I allied with Ottomans as Byzantine around turn 10?
I think the whole diplomacy concept may want some more work.
Last edited by Myshkin; November 17, 2009 at 06:02 AM.
Praeses
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
thats probably it. joining with muslims.
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Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
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Last edited by Kjertesvein; November 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
Apologies for the stupid question, is this thread about diplomacy in DLV standard or another mod?
Remember to smile
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
You did not do anything wrong, so there is nothing to apologies for. My friend, let me refrase my clouded question :
Myshkin, with assistance from DLVers - Do you take this honorable challange of fixing the BC diplomacy?-General Philippus
Archeons mod got nothing to do with the plauge. The plauge operates on it's own, but as I recall, it resets afterwards.
Here is a good thread when speaking of the Archeon alliance mod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=302819Changelog DLV 6.0
-After Dark Ages: reset of all diplomacy and faction standings to start values (only in DLV Standard Civ modus)
-Myshkin, mon ami ^_~
If you are the person for that work, this is the right person you should state your question toGrandWiz the Opifexer.
Changelog DLV 6.0
-Included GrandViz new BC diplomacy values: no more easy trade rights,.....(faction standings are more important now)
BL-W
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
I would like to do it, but I know little of TW modding.You did not do anything wrong, so there is nothing to apologies for
Myshkin, with assistance from DLVers - Do you take this honorable challange of fixing the BC diplomacy?
BL-W
I know programming though (matlab & C). How much assistance do I get?
Also I am a god damn newb comparing to you guys, what is BC?
Last edited by Myshkin; November 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM.
Remember to smile
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
1. Gather as much info as you can about this mod.
2. Present it here, and we take it from there, ok?
3. Make thread in the correct modding forum, with the relevant questions.
Nothing is impossible
BL-W
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
1. DLV?
1. Gather as much info as you can about this mod.
2. Present it here, and we take it from there, ok?
3. Make thread in the correct modding forum, with the relevant questions.
Nothing is impossible
BL-W
2. Present the whole DLV here (in this thread)? You got to mean something different.
3. Mini-mod section or mod-workshop?
Could you please be a little bit more specific? I have read a lot about DLV eg manual etc, but I take it as common knowledge.
Do you suggest we create a mini-mod which fixes diplomacy issues?
Cheers
Last edited by Myshkin; November 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM.
Remember to smile
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
0.9 Are you ready for this?
If your answer is [Accept], then proceed:
1. BC diplomacy by GrandWiz
2. Offcourse you know nothing ( I presume) about technical side of BC's diplomacy.
3. Since you need "This is where you can find help in modding Medieval 2: Total War." Then you click 'Mod Workshop'. Then the 2 sub furums are:
Tools, Tutorials, and Resources, -->> Text Editing & Scripting, then search for every thing that got to do with Diplomacy and it's AI. Try to get a feel of the ground and learn as many words as you can, then move to Text Editing and Scripting and present your case in a thread: Your issue's and what you allready know from the T,T&R's TE&S tutorial
They are very good and very few, but pay attention and take one step at the time.
3.1. If there will be any local questions, then let us know, eh?
3.2. Once you have anything substancial, make your very own 0.1 BETA DLV Mini Mod.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Centenarius
Re: Faction (sovereignty) reputation
My answer is accept, but first I need to finnish two more chapters of my thesis.
Christmas time, I will be free and should be working on it.
Your answers were elightening. At least it is clear to me now how to procceed!
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