faction destroyed crash???

**Radioman** · September 30, 2009, 05:18 PM

I have a faction that appears to cause a crash during the ai turn...During the ai turn, Egypt destroys the last Kingdom of Jerusalem fortress. It's at this point that the crash occurs.

I've tried to to recreate the crash by playing a campaign with a neighboring faction of the KOJ and once I destroy them I get the standard faction destroyed screen...All is well.

Does anyone have any ideas for what might be the issue?

It's not a CTD sticky topic...

Just a little more info...During the mentioned AI turn, You hear the sound of the KOJ general dying and you see the Egyptian army take the castle, and that's when the crash happens.

**Gigantus** · September 30, 2009, 10:51 PM

It might have to do with the destruction of religious buildings.
Any hint in the error log?

**Radioman** · October 01, 2009, 11:55 PM

This here is the bottom of the log, there were no errors.
I also have pics if thats helpful?

23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2165.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2166.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2167.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2168.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2169.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: missing tgas/2170.tga
23:46:56.294 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on
23:46:56.295 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on
23:46:57.411 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

**Taiji** · October 02, 2009, 10:19 AM

I've seen this often in many mods:

23:46:56.294 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on
23:46:56.295 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on

To all, why am I seeing this? Does it only ever get produced when the game crashes? Does it highlight the cause of an issue?

**Pnutmaster** · October 24, 2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Taiji

I've seen this often in many mods:

23:46:56.294 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on
23:46:56.295 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/england_lose.bik]Pause on

To all, why am I seeing this? Does it only ever get produced when the game crashes? Does it highlight the cause of an issue?

I too would like to know...

**Gigantus** · October 02, 2009, 12:32 PM

23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2165.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2166.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
23:46:52.942 [system.io] [info] exists: found tgas/2167.tga (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)

These are references to screenshots! Why would that be?
Check the tga folder (have you got that many screenshots in there?) and maybe compress your log and attach it here for a closer look.

**Radioman** · October 02, 2009, 06:50 PM

I wondered why those we're there...I took a screenie of the game just before it crashed...and yes there are that many pics in the tga folder...I'll try and see if I can compress it like you said however I don't think I know how???Let's see.

**Radioman** · October 02, 2009, 07:36 PM

Here's the log and the last three pics...Notice in the 3rd pic how the egyptian general builds a watch tower just before crash occurs...

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1042/45692809.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8501/52949094.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/975/52312825.jpg

**Gigantus** · October 02, 2009, 10:11 PM

The log goes on about this event: jerusalem_king_event.tga
Have a look if the corresponding text entry is available in data\text\historic_events.txt, eg
{JERUSALEM_KING_EVENT_TITLE} AND {JERUSALEM_KING_EVENT_BODY}

**Radioman** · October 03, 2009, 08:55 PM

That looks good I'll have to take a look at that...I've been looking in the camp_script to no avail...I never would've looked in the text folder.

thx and +rep. I'll post back results.

**Radioman** · October 03, 2009, 09:31 PM

Thus far I've looked into historical text and found the reference for Jerusalem King, and all was fine there...I double checked the campain scipt at the very end where the king dies monitor is and that looked fine...So now I'm wondering if it has something to do with the faction that comes after the Egyptians in the ai turn selection?? That would be the Danish as you can see in the previous pics. i'll post the script and historic_events txt referenced above...

Camp_script:
monitor_event BecomesFactionLeader not FactionIsLocal
and FactionType antioch
add_events
event historic antioch_king_event
date 0 0
end_add_events
end_monitor
monitor_event BecomesFactionLeader not FactionIsLocal
and FactionType jerusalem
add_events
event historic jerusalem_king_event
date 0 0
end_add_events
end_monitor

wait_monitors
end_script

historic_events_txt:
{DENMARK_KING_EVENT_BODY}With the death of the late Danish ruler, his heir has succeeded to the throne. The Royal Houses know not whether to find fear or comfort in this knowledge...
{DENMARK_KING_EVENT_TITLE}The King of Denmark is dead!
{ANTIOCH_KING_EVENT_BODY}With the death of the late King of Antioch, his heir has succeeded to the throne. The Royal Houses know not whether to find fear or comfort in this knowledge...
{ANTIOCH_KING_EVENT_TITLE}The King of Antioch is dead!
{JERUSALEM_KING_EVENT_BODY}With the death of the late King of Jerusalem, his heir has succeeded to the throne. The Royal Houses know not whether to find fear or comfort in this knowledge...
{JERUSALEM_KING_EVENT_TITLE}The King of Jerusalem is dead!

**uanime5** · October 04, 2009, 05:29 AM

The crash could be caused by the Egyptian general's destruction of Jerusalem activating a trigger from a trait but because the trait is spelled wrongly they cannot get this trait and the mod crashes. Check the error log to see if it makes reference to any traits before the mod crashes.

The problem could also be that in the Egyptians have achieved their victory conditions but the 'data/text/expanded.txt' doesn't contain the line saying that they have achieved their victory conditions.

The best way to find out is to play as Egypt and crush the KOJ.

**Radioman** · October 04, 2009, 08:33 PM

More good ideas...I'll try these methods the first chance I get and post back the results. I did try crushing them with the turks and in what was kind of like a tag team with the egyptians. The game never crashed so I'll try it with the egyptians like you said...The trait thing might be the issue...+Rep thanks I'll also look closer at the crash log for the Egyptian traits, I think one might have fired "wrongly" when one of the Egyptian generals took out a crusading HRE army just before the crash...That instance should be in the log above...

**Gigantus** · October 23, 2009, 11:42 PM

15:26:54.106 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0201_Message_First_Incoming_Message_Trigger> fired

That is rather curious why this trigger would fire, this is the text:
{UI_Message_First_Incoming_Message_Advice_Thread_Text1}Left-click on the boxes that slide down the left of the screen to view important messages, right-click to dismiss them. Messages include financial reports, family announcements, missions and declarations of war.