Isengard are not going to die (playing v1.2)

**Æsir** · September 30, 2009, 01:36 PM

I captured all Isengard's settlements, killed all generals (faction leader and heir were slain in single battle) but Isengard are still alive

I'm playing vanilla 1.2 as Eldar. Any thoughts?

**TheCrakFox** · September 30, 2009, 01:39 PM

Same thing happens with OotMM, it's a known bug.

**Æsir** · September 30, 2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheCrakFox

Same thing happens with OotMM, it's a known bug.

Yes, but I thought it was v1.1 bug.. Do I must use hotfix with v1.2?

**Muffer Nl** · September 30, 2009, 01:45 PM

Install the hotfix for it. This sometimes solves the problem.

**Æsir** · September 30, 2009, 01:47 PM

Is hotfix compatible with v1.2?

**Muffer Nl** · September 30, 2009, 01:49 PM

Yah, it was for me. It is defenitly save game compatible.

**Æsir** · September 30, 2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Muffer Nl

Yah, it was for me. It is defenitly save game compatible.

OK, on your responsibility..

**Muffer Nl** · September 30, 2009, 01:54 PM

Back up your save files before you begin ofc.

**Æsir** · September 30, 2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Muffer Nl

Back up your save files before you begin ofc.

You are lucky Muffer - in bugs page KK reveals that he forget to include hotfix in v1.2

**Muffer Nl** · September 30, 2009, 02:06 PM

**koultouras** · September 30, 2009, 02:36 PM

IIRC hotfix isn't needed anymore and may not solve the problem of undying factions .
According to the "bugs reoport" thread you should copy - paste THIS into sega/medieval ii t.war/mods/third age/ data

**Hermes Trismegistos** · September 30, 2009, 02:57 PM

I repeated the bugfix after installing 1.2 and it still works.

**Seleukos_I.** · September 30, 2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by koultouras

IIRC hotfix isn't needed anymore and may not solve the problem of undying factions .
According to the "bugs reoport" thread you should copy - paste THIS into sega/medieval ii t.war/mods/third age/ data

I thnik that is what they mean by hotfix

**LuiSius_ScutaRuS** · October 01, 2009, 01:14 AM

Sometimes there is a diplomat or a spy, I remember in others mods, you had to search them and kill them with an assassin... try that

**Gigantus** · October 01, 2009, 01:42 AM

It is simply a setting in the descr_sm_factions. Isengard hasn't got a family tree - hence the faction cannot die. Pointed that out to KK.
It is helpful for the pope and the rebel faction, but a nuisance for any other faction.

And, NO, it is not save game compatible.

The working version of the file is attached.

**Hermes Trismegistos** · October 01, 2009, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

And, NO, it is not save game compatible.

Are you sure? Is this different in 1.2? In 1.1 I installed the hotfix, loaded my game where Mordor was already destroyed, got the message "Mordor destroyed" in the same turn and everything was fine...