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    Hi

    I am currently working on my own personal mod to refine some aspects of TW to my own tastes. One of the areas I'm unsure about is how to represent the acquisition of individual regions by marriage and inheritance. I can currently think of the following;

    Diplomats bribe - achieves desired result but through "wrong" means
    Settlement "rebels" to your faction - not sure if this is possible
    Princess can bribe settlement - was my fav option but have found out it can't be done from other threads
    Marrying Princess to General grants a region with it (possibly tie in with a titles mod), would mean the AI could do it to you too so would want to limit it

    I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas about how to approach this as I believe it was a very significant part of medieval history, particularly around the 100 years war era.

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    Default Re: ACQUIRING REGION BY MARRIAGE

    That would be one heck of a script. You would have to monitor the different actions and then give the settlement to your faction - which will always cause war as far as I know. Rebelling certainly has that effect.










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    Quote Originally Posted by gigantus View Post
    That would be one heck of a script. You would have to monitor the different actions and then give the settlement to your faction - which will always cause war as far as I know.
    That war could be dealt with (set the diplomatic stance to "neutral" in the same monitor), but how can I give a single settlement to another faction?

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    Default Re: ACQUIRING REGION BY MARRIAGE

    This command
    console_command capture_settlement York
    will give York to the current faction if I am not mistaken. And that is why you will have war.
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    Ah, thank you. I thought this would only work for the slaves. I'll give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konny View Post
    Ah, thank you. I thought this would only work for the slaves. I'll give it a try.
    This would work only for the local faction though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    This would work only for the local faction though.
    "Local" not "active"? In this case this feature can only be used for the player.

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    Default Re: ACQUIRING REGION BY MARRIAGE

    i had an idea


    using the region title ancillary mod (Duke of X, Earl of Y..etc) it would be much easier

    let's say a general is the Duke of York, and the region of York is owned by england, then after a marriage if the general has any title (as said before) and if the settlements belongs to X faction, then the player recieves the settlement


    i made this OUT OF MY MIND (just to give a taste) so the conditions and events may not be correct

    WhentoTest PrincessMarriage
    factiontype france ; of the princess
    TargetCharacterHasAncillaryType Duke of York ;married male character
    SettlementOwner = england

    console_command give_settlement france

    end Monitor

    i made this from scratch.. maybe someone can test something like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger View Post
    using the region title ancillary mod (Duke of X, Earl of Y..etc) it would be much easier
    Yes, that was the thing I thought of too: If I had a Count of Anjou for faction France and this one would become FL or FH he could pass down the trait "House of Anjou" to a princess (his daughter).

    When this princess would marry an English FH or FL he could acquire the "House of Anjou" too, passing it down to his kids.

    And if there is no more Count of Anjou in France at any point of the game, for example because the previous one died without male heir, a member of the English Anjous could acquire this title and the Anjou being given to England.

    In this case I wouldn't even be unhappy on the war resulting from that.


    Here we have a practical problem to be dealt with: What if the English conquer the Anjou regulary in a war? In this case the same mechanism would insantly return the province back to France because the English don't have a Count of Anjou but the French do.

    So, the monitor should not fire if there's a war going between both factions. This would follow that if the English capture the Anjou and both sides make peace this province would be returned to France afterwards if the English did not create a Count of Anjou of their own. Of course, in this case there should be no other war caused by that, it would be considered part of the peace treaty.

    This could also be a desired effect because it would keep the factions for longer within their starting borders what would be more accurate when playing on a large map spawning from Scotland to the Holy Land.

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    Default Re: ACQUIRING REGION BY MARRIAGE

    It is 'capture_settlement' and afterward you will have to script something about faction relations as that causes a war.










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