Americans 1.5 times more likely to trust a General than a Priest

**Farnan** · September 28, 2009, 06:51 PM

http://www.pollingreport.com/institut.htm

82% of Americans place at least "Quite a lot" of trust in the military according to the Gallup Poll that is compared to 52% in organized religion and 51% in the Presidency (and only 17% in Congress)...

What do you think is behind this amount of trust?

**★Bandiera Rossa☭** · September 28, 2009, 07:05 PM

Well in my opinion none of these individuals can be trusted, And all authority should be questioned.

**Misery** · September 28, 2009, 07:06 PM

Trust in Military is usually high in times of war so that explains first statistic.

Presidents trust usually reflects his approval rating which I think is around 50% atm.

Organized religion has suffered in modern times, atheist don't trust them nor should they, so that explains for around 30% of questioned, for other 20% I would blame Priest scandals and geniune lack of progress with today's religion.

Now for congress, honestly I am surprised that even 17% trust them. America has learn that congress is not there to push their interests but interests of big banks, big oil and other lobbies.

Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent.
Forty percent of all people know that.

**Farnan** · September 28, 2009, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Misery

Trust in Military is usually high in times of war so that explains first statistic.

Presidents trust usually reflects his approval rating which I think is around 50% atm.

Organized religion has suffered in modern times, atheist don't trust them nor should they, so that explains for around 30% of questioned, for other 20% I would blame Priest scandals and geniune lack of progress with today's religion.

Now for congress, honestly I am surprised that even 17% trust them. America has learn that congress is not there to push their interests but interests of big banks, big oil and other lobbies.

Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent.
Forty percent of all people know that.

No, I'm just commenting on it, and its not unusual for the US to have the high military rating.

**zznɟ ǝɥʇ** · September 28, 2009, 07:07 PM

Why would I trust someone who advocates a belief system that I do not adhere to? I'd be more likely to trust the others listen simply because they based their world view on facts and observable things (arguably

).

That said, I think I, as with most, take everything said by officials with a grain of salt.

**Boyar Son** · September 28, 2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by zznɟ ǝɥʇ

Why would I trust someone who advocates a belief system that I do not adhere to?

advocates a belief system that I do not adhere to?

:/ you don't have to write a college level post all the time.

besides, so generals believe in protecting the constitution and defending the US against enemies foreign and domestic.

what's so bad about that?

**zznɟ ǝɥʇ** · September 28, 2009, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boyar Son

:/ you don't have to write a college level post all the time.

besides, so generals believe in protecting the constitution and defending the US against enemies foreign and domestic.

what's so bad about that?

Sorry that you had trouble comprehending high school level vocabulary....?

**Boyar Son** · September 28, 2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by zznɟ ǝɥʇ

Sorry that you had trouble comprehending high school level vocabulary....?

oh no, no trouble at all. i just do not see the point in dressing your posts in such a needless eloquent manner, in a TWC forum.

**John I Tzimisces** · September 28, 2009, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boyar Son

oh no, no trouble at all. i just do not see the point in dressing your posts in such a needless eloquent manner, in a TWC forum.

There's nothing wrong with typing a language the way it's meant to be written down. Jesus Christ.

**Otsman** · September 28, 2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Boyar Son

oh no, no trouble at all. i just do not see the point in dressing your posts in such a needless eloquent manner, in a TWC forum.

i don't see the point of you being here

**Phier** · September 28, 2009, 07:08 PM

I once had a priest grab my ass.

I never had a general grab my ass.

General wins.

**Tiberius Tosi** · September 28, 2009, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Phier

I once had a priest grab my ass.

I never had a general grab my ass.

General wins.

One can get you killed, the other can grab your ass. What's your point? You have more to lose putting your faith in a General.

But to Farnan this does make sense, everyone was absolutely obsessed with Petraeus when he reported to Congress in 2007, and when Bush or any other politician would say the exact same thing people would point and call them a dumbass lol. People naturally have a faith in Generals it seems, perhaps its because they see them as uncorrupt or because they see that they General worked his way up, unlike some politicians and such.

**Phier** · September 28, 2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tiberius Tosi

One can get you killed, the other can grab your ass. What's your point? You have more to lose putting your faith in a General.

I'm not trusting him in an order of battle, I'm trusting him in a general sense of the word.

I would hope that in the course of duty most generals are better vetted than priests were/are.

**B5C** · September 29, 2009, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Phier

I once had a priest grab my ass.

I never had a general grab my ass.

General wins.

What about a President?

**bigfootedfred** · September 28, 2009, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Farnan

http://www.pollingreport.com/institut.htm

82% of Americans place at least "Quite a lot" of trust in the military according to the Gallup Poll that is compared to 52% in organized religion and 51% in the Presidency (and only 17% in Congress)...

What do you think is behind this amount of trust?

Dosent suprise me to be honest.
Army does the job its told to do, if they get told to go invade a sovereign nation on false pretenses, they do it. Its not their fault it was all about a complete load of nonsense. From what ive observed of the american millitary as well, is that they can be extremely self critical and bluntly honest, when not restrained for pr purposes which would again not be down to them. This compared to polys who's job is apparently to lie as often as possible, we are all used to our polys lying to us. so yeah, really it makes sense. The ones who send em places are the lying cheating scheming bastards, 17% in Congress, cant remeber how low the bush presidency dropped but you get the jist of where im goin..

**Sher Khan** · September 28, 2009, 08:14 PM

Most likely image. The reputation of President, Congress and organized religion has taken severe blows from crisis, outrage and scandal in the past decade.

For the most part, the military is seen as upright and trustworthy even by those who don't believe in its purpose.

**Jexiel** · September 28, 2009, 08:28 PM

The better question is, how many people were simply thinking "I support the troops" when they answered?

**jankren** · September 28, 2009, 09:12 PM

America has military culture. I bet if they conduct the same survey in Turkey for example the result will be similar.

**JustShoveJayOhBe** · September 28, 2009, 09:18 PM

To me, Generals are civil servants who work their way up (yeah sometimes its political -- but not one of them wasn't a recruit/academy pleb getting yelled at at some point), while in the world of politics, civil service stops once you reach the top rings of upper-middle management, from which point forward bureau chiefs, deputy administrators, and heads of units/departments are instead appointed by the executive (who is an elected whore) usually because they are buddy-buddy or because they campaigned together.

If there were more friggin requirements to become a member of congress or president besides your flippin' age, and if politics in the U.S. was more of a meritocracy, I'd be a happier camper. It's pretty sad to me that Tamerlame had a better idea of meritocracy than a 21st century nation-state.