50,000 UK Students Denied University Places as Foreign Student Population Doubles

[Atatürk]

Up to 50,000 UK students have been denied places at British universities this year while the number of non-European students given places has doubled over the last ten years.

According to the report, in 2007/08 some 229,640 students came from outside the European Union, compared with 117,290 in 1998/99. Students from China remained the “most significant” number.

The British National Party is of the opinion that priority should always be given to native British people first in the educational field. If there are places left over, then, and only then, can these be allocated to foreign students.

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Is it in Britain’s interests to educate students who will make no contribution to this country’s economy upon graduation?

[Ishoss]

Yes, yes it is. Not only do a lot of these students continue to stay in Britain afterwards - they're not all Turkish nationalists who hate the country, despite having lived there their entire life, you see. No, a lot of them will live there and make a good contribution to society. If the British students can't compete with the foreigners, then they need to pull themselves together and do so, or the government need to fund more univeresities. Take your pick.

Discrimination is not the answer. (Neither is profiling, by the way)

[Yorkshireman]

I presume there's so many oversea's students because the universities charge them a lot to take courses. (You've become an avid reader of the BNP website lately Ataturk ?)

[removeduser_487563287433]

Is it in Britain’s interests to educate students who will make no contribution to this country’s economy upon graduation?

Absolutely. 40% of funding for British universities come from foreign students, who pay fees unsubsidised by our Government. Unless you want a massive raise in taxes, a massive decline in available places in higher education and an irreversible catastrophe for the quality of research in this country then I suggest you put up with it.

Think.

[eggthief]

Well I can't blame them for denying Chinese people. 3/4th in my class is one of them and I don't know what the standard is in China, but they sure as hell can't speak English properly.

[Syron]

The problem isn't foreign students, the problem is the question of whether the Government is funding enough places for British students..........

Well I can't blame them for denying Chinese people. 3/4th in my class is one of them and I don't know what the standard is in China, but they sure as hell can't speak English properly.

Well yes the English exams are ridiculously easy as my friend from the Seychelles can attest but that really is a different issue.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Syron has blundered into the correct opinion. Yes, the lack of places is due to the budget squeeze we're all going to have to get used to. But cutting back on foreign students, a massive source of funding, would only make this worse.

[Syron]

Syron has blundered into the correct opinion. Yes, the lack of places is due to the budget squeeze we're all going to have to get used to. But cutting back on foreign students, a massive source of funding, would only make this worse.

Oh you are funny.....

And no we don't have to "get used to it" at all, there is plenty of money, the problem is currently money is going into all the wrong places.

Reducing our graduate pool is about the last thing we need right now.

[Admiral Piett]

Why do this? What if I want to come study over there for a period of time?

[eggthief]

Syron has blundered into the correct opinion. Yes, the lack of places is due to the budget squeeze we're all going to have to get used to. But cutting back on foreign students, a massive source of funding, would only make this worse.

That's true, in my country, foreign students pay twice maybe even more for the courses than domestic(?) students. On top of that they don't receive any financial support from the government like us, then again, they do go back to their own country after they graduate and wont build up their host country.

[removeduser_487563287433]

That's true, in my country, foreign students pay twice maybe even more for the courses than domestic(?) students. On top of that they don't receive any financial support from the government like us, then again, they do go back to their own country after they graduate and wont build up their host country.

Foreign students build up Britain by paying for its universities to function.

[eggthief]

Foreign students build up Britain by paying for its universities to function.

True, but what use does this have if it causes UK students to be denied?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Yes, we have to get used to it. In case you've been living the past year in a hole the public finances are in an awful state and higher education is going to suffer, along with everything else. Saying anything else is denial. And the graduate pool is not declining, more people are just applying for university.

True, but what use does this have if it causes UK students to be denied?

The cause for not having enough places for British students is that there isn't enough funding. As I have already explained to you if we cut back on foreign students there would be even less funding and even fewer places.

[Syron]

Yes, we have to get used to it. In case you've been living the past year in a hole the public finances are in an awful state and higher education is going to suffer, along with everything else. Saying anything else is denial.

The deficit is to do with borrowing by the government to prop up failing banks. At the same time the government is pledging to spend £9 Billion on foreign aid per year..........the Tories plan to up this to £14 Billion! This is just one of many examples.

Sorry but I'm not just going to shut up and accept that.

And the graduate pool is not declining, more people are just applying for university.

As a proportion of the UK population, the number of British graduates is declining.

Yes, more people are applying for university which is rather unsurprising given the jobs market, It makes just as much sense to train them than have them on the dole........

[Musthavename]

Well I can't blame them for denying Chinese people. 3/4th in my class is one of them and I don't know what the standard is in China, but they sure as hell can't speak English properly.

Yeah, i've got a similar experience at my Uni, though only 1/4. Two of them barely spoke at all, and the other constantly misunderstood things because of it. I really couldn't care what nationality or whatever these people are, but its a bit of an annoyance when they speak English so poorly, especially when at one stage last year we had a group presentation that counted towards that modules mark.

Likewise, despite the fact many foreign students will go onto leave Britain, there's also going to be many who look for a career here. Conversly, there's going to be many Britons who jump ship and look for work elsewhere, especially considering how our job market is for many graduates right now.

[Saint Nicholas]

It is true. Foreign students pay an excessive amount of money to live, work and study in the UK and in other developed countries. Sure it is a shame that home grown talent misses out on a university place but it up to the government to provide more commonwealth supported places and also UK students need to work harder and be more competitive.

[Musthavename]

Yes, more people are applying for university which is rather unsurprising given the jobs market, It makes just as much sense to train them than have them on the dole........

It doesn't make sense. An overinflation of graduates competing for jobs means many become overqualified for their jobs, or are working in a job that they could've got without the degree in the first place. If they don't then pay back the loan before a certain time, where it gets written off, then the Government has lost money on them. Infact, even if they do, if you assumed they worked instead for three years, even on a not great wage, they'd have still given the state more tax revenue.

The other thing is by having more graduates and making a degree more commonplace, it devalues things like A-Levels. These people would still get these jobs if they had no degree in the first place, and effectivly forces anyone who doesn't want a University education to get one.

[removeduser_487563287433]

God, I promise you the Government is not losing money through student loans.

[Musthavename]

God, I promise you the Government is not losing money through student loans.

Never said they wern't. But, they'd be better off if many of these University goers went got jobs instead of going to University and gave them three years worth of taxes.

[Zhangir]

I can't believe this!

WE (the non-uk students) pay 15000 quid a year just for education
WE pay for Visa 300 quid
WE pay for Police Registration 50 quid
WE pay for Accommodation (everybody does)
WE buy stuff
WE pay taxes
WE pay for tickets and those EU anti-pollution air taxes

Yet now the British complain!
How much the Scottish pay for the same place in a Scottish Uni? 0 pounds
How much EU and UK people pay for the same place other UK Universities? 3000 quid a year

How much is the average earning after graduating, per lifetime?
400 000 Quid.

So i tell the BNP: ST*U

Foreign students build up Britain by paying for its universities to function.

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