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    Default The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Hello, this is an historical article that proves that 300 years in our time line didn't exist. We can't know this for 100% but I belief this, read it and tell me if you think it to.

    1.)The reformation of the Gregorian Calender by Gregory XIII

    Pope Gregory XIII is mostly known for his reformation of the Julian Calender. He removed 10 days of the Julian Calender made in 45 BC by Julius Caesar. To make sure spring starts on March 21, and not on an other time. He corrected an error of 1280 years by removing those 10 days, and making a new calender. "The Gregorian calender." This means he must have lived in 1280 but as stated in history to have lived in 1582 AD. Strange ? Read further.
    -The Romans are known for adding 100 days in a year, so they can ask more tax from there citizens. Very sneaky indeed and mean, but people where easy to fool in that time.

    2.)The Dark Ages

    When Rome was captured and the Western Empire was taken over, trade stopped, wealth and prosperity seized to exist. From that time the "Dark Ages" had begone. It was a time of war and plunder, no unity of people, little kingdoms fighting for land and so on. A fast and hard life it was told. (Is that what we where made to belief ?)
    There are no coins, paintings, buildings, texts, dates, nothing. Everything we know was written some time later by monks, historians, scribes, etc. To fill in the empty gap in time. Of what nobody knew really much.

    3.)Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III

    In time many impressive and great buildings where constructed. The architectural style changed constantly over time, becoming more and more complicated and more beautiful. But buildings of any kind stopped to appear at 614 AD. Nothing can be found past 614 to 911. And at 911 paintings, buildins all started to appear again. (A gap in time.)

    In the early Christianity the survival told that the existence of earth was divided in periods of 1000 years. One of the periods started of course with the birth of Jesus Christ. The following 1000 years would have been ruled by one emperor, and would have been the last years of our earth, so it was told. Otto III wanted to become that ruler, but according to the calculations he was born 700 years after Jesus Christ. Otto and his friend the Pope Silvester II changed time and added 300 years. What made Otto live in 1000 AD, making him the ruler. This was not only good for his empire but also for the church.
    1-People believed all in the same faith, where very religious.
    2-everyone was scared what would happen, curious, because it was now 1000 AD.
    3-The people accepted the new time, and it was first in history ever that from then they would begone to count from 0. (birth of Jesus Christ.)

    No one had problems with the change made by Otto, because most could not read at that time.

    4.)The Myth of Karel the Great

    Karel the Great was seen as a hero, a legend, a conqueror, a king who did it all. During his reign there was a time of prosperity, economic grow, new rules, etc ... He constructed cathedrals, hospitals, universities, etc. 311 buildings where build during the reign of Karel the Great, no building survived until today. Not even the foundation of a building.
    Only one building known as the cathedral of Aken remains, but the architectural style and technique where not used some hundreds of years later. So the cathedral of Aken could not have been build during the rule of Karel the great. Making the 311 building vanish in time.



    In fact it was Otto III who made up the myth of Karel the Great. Many stories where made of karel the Great, how amazing he was, what he did, how he looked. All made up, where they got the insperation from is unknown. But it can be assured Karel the Great is a myth.



    Karel the great his empire split to his 3 grandsons. But this was to made up by Otto so he could gain more groud and region. There where only 2 kingdoms, that of the holy Pope and that of Otto III. There was at that time no United Frankish empire. There are of course all kind of detail information of Karel the Great making him real and alive at the time. Almost nothing remains of his rule, actually nothing remains. Only his grave.

    5.)Karel the Great and Otto III are the same

    The only thing that remains of Karel the great himself, is the crown. The crown of the Karel the Great was not made in 800 AD or any time during the rule of the king. There has been prove that the crown was made in 1000 AD during the rule of Otto III. Not only was it made during his rule, Otto was wearing the crown himself. it was the crown that rested on the head of Otto himself.

    The crown was not made around 800 AD the same year Karel the Great was crowned, but people have seen and experimented with the crown and have confirmed that the crown was made during the year 1000, the same years when Otto III ruled.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 








    You see Otto III wearing the same crown, that we are told to belief is of Karel the Great. That is of course not true. The detailed things that happened for real we will never known, but what we do know is time isn't correctly right.

    6.)Afterword

    I have tried to put together ideas, facts, theories, and come to the conclusion we don't live in 2009 but in 1712. The exact date I don't know. (For example: 15th of June) Only that we are now 1712. I hoped you all enjoyed this and something you then have to know when reading this. Nothing is going to happen in 2012 because it will take some 300 years before we are really that year.

    Enjoy!
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    What a load of tripe
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Okay but I hope you know this is right?
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    What do you mean ? Please read it.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    1712? I think I should greet Handel, Saint-Simon and Anne, in that order.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    I think the problem with this is that we have other civilizations other than the ones in western europe to confirm that we actually are in 2009. Fun read though.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    I think the problem with this is that we have other civilizations other than the ones in western europe to confirm that we actually are in 2009. Fun read though.
    Well, I thank you for reading. I know you all think, no no that can't be true, but hold a moment your breath and think. There is nothing left, there never was because the Dark Ages didn't exist.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    Well, I thank you for reading. I know you all think, no no that can't be true, but hold a moment your breath and think. There is nothing left, there never was because the Dark Ages didn't exist.
    I think historians and archeologists would disagree.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    When Rome was captured and the Western Empire was taken over, trade stopped, wealth and prosperity seized to exist.
    This is as far as I got reading the article before I concluded that it's full of crap.
    Besides, it's also not true that no written records from that time exist. There was still one little place in Europe called Constantinople, to carry on the tradition of Rome and write things as they were happening.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    I am talking about the Western part, of course in Constantinople it continued. But read it all and don't read to fast, there are some points and facts that prove 300 years have been added.

    And guy's whats up he! No sign of respect, no all say crap, crap, that is typically.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Why isn't there an "anti-rep" button for this kind of rubbish?

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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    No respect for that article because it is full of crap.

    Those who claim "there is no records from 7th to 10th Century" are history ignorants; the very fact that we have quite some description about West Europe, both from Byzantium and Church, suggests that it is not Dark Age like what 19th Century scholars believed, but rather had several highly organized Romano-Germanic kingdoms which had good centralized system to support themselves.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    I am talking about the Western part, of course in Constantinople it continued. But read it all and don't read to fast, there are some points and facts that prove 300 years have been added.

    And guy's whats up he! No sign of respect, no all say crap, crap, that is typically.
    But there are way too many other proofs that proves the existence of that 300 years.

    This not a matter of belief. This is a matter of simple facts.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    There is plenty of written record and archeology to prove that the period known as the dark ages existed.

    Some of the writing of the time include the Anglo Saxon chronicle which began in Wessex during the 9th century (Dark Ages!).

    Also, monks tended to write a bit about what was going on around them. Learn your history and you'll see there just as much evidence for the existence of the dark ages as any other period in world history, anyone who says otherwise has obviously never been to all the amazing buildings across Europe, taken place in archeological digs or read any historical writings from the time.

    EDIT: Somethings from the dark ages for you:
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    From Sutton Hoo




    Coin of Alfred the Great (so yes the Anglo Saxons used coins too.


    The "Viking" Gogstad Ship




    Coin of Charlemagne


    Aachen Cathedral


    Vendel era viking helmet


    6th century mosaic from the Basilica of San Vitale.



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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    I am talking about the Western part, of course in Constantinople it continued. But read it all and don't read to fast, there are some points and facts that prove 300 years have been added.

    And guy's whats up he! No sign of respect, no all say crap, crap, that is typically.
    Does natural science mean anything to you? So how do you explain that scientific methods of dating also have a gap of 300 years? This is madness, but it ain't Sparta, it's junk: Epic Fail time...

    Perhaps we should get our Picards going??? Everyone who thinks this is also rubbish, post a Picard

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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by gaius valerius View Post
    Does natural science mean anything to you? So how do you explain that scientific methods of dating also have a gap of 300 years? This is madness, but it ain't Sparta, it's junk: Epic Fail time...

    Perhaps we should get our Picards going??? Everyone who thinks this is also rubbish, post a Picard

    I too think it is rubbish, and I therefore post this Picard:



    The OP -- as explained in my own critique on the previous page -- is so terribly flawed, and ignores such an overwhelming amount of evidence, and implies a conspiracy so gianormous, that only the above double facepalm can express the fail.

    Furthermore, it is a slight to anyone having studied the rich and fascinating period that are the early middle ages so that one has the right to be more than justly offended.

    I further supplement this facepalm with a parody of the OP.

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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance-Corporal Jones View Post
    I too think it is rubbish, and I therefore post this Picard:



    The OP -- as explained in my own critique on the previous page -- is so terribly flawed, and ignores such an overwhelming amount of evidence, and implies a conspiracy so gianormous, that only the above double facepalm can express the fail.

    Furthermore, it is a slight to anyone having studied the rich and fascinating period that are the early middle ages so that one has the right to be more than justly offended.

    I further supplement this facepalm with a parody of the OP.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

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    You are wrong.. only this can.

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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post

    There are no coins, paintings, buildings, texts, dates, nothing. Everything we know was written some time later by monks, historians, scribes, etc. To fill in the empty gap in time. Of what nobody knew really much.


    . We have coins, artifacts, sources etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    In time many impressive and great buildings where constructed. The architectural style changed constantly over time, becoming more and more complicated and more beautiful. But buildings of any kind stopped to appear at 614 AD. Nothing can be found past 614 to 911. And at 911 paintings, buildins all started to appear again. (A gap in time.)

    ??? Incomprehensible....

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post
    Otto and his friend the Pope Silvester II changed time and added 300 years. What made Otto live in 1000 AD, making him the ruler. This was not only good for his empire but also for the church.
    1-People believed all in the same faith, where very religious.
    2-everyone was scared what would happen, curious, because it was now 1000 AD.
    3-The people accepted the new time, and it was first in history ever that from then they would begone to count from 0. (birth of Jesus Christ.)

    A proof for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post

    No one had problems with the change made by Otto, because most could not read at that time.

    Yeah even the byzantians accepted it... They couldn't read, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post

    In fact it was Otto III who made up the myth of Karel the Great. Many stories where made of karel the Great, how amazing he was, what he did, how he looked. All made up, where they got the insperation from is unknown. But it can be assured Karel the Great is a myth.
    Also .

    Quote Originally Posted by master412160 View Post

    5.)Karel the Great and Otto III are the same
    Dendrochronlogist proved that Herbert illig and his friends are miserable liars. There is a bridge in Koblenz, which was built by the romans. Only the pillars remain. They are made from trees. The trees were cut in AD. 48 and they are exactly that old.
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    Default Re: The Dark Ages are made up by Paus Silvester II and Emperor Otto III. 300 years didn't exist, we don't live in 2009 but in 1712.

    If you don't want to belief this its fine, of course I have proof!

    http://www.democraticunderground.com...=228x1399#1406

    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum9/7684.htm

    I have used many other sources to.

    And if you don't want to belief this fine, but leave then.
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