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    I was watching the new show on the History Channel called MysteryQuest. I'm not sure how reliable it is, but the scientists on the show examine the only pieces of evidence from Hitler's Bunker (including a couch piece with blood stains on it, records of the Russians cremating everything, and a supposedly piece of Hitler's skull with a bullet exit wound on the top). When the Russians allowed only 60 minutes to look at all the evidence, the scientist was able to bring small pieces of bone to a lab in America. After analysis on the couch samples, they found that the blood is from a male victim. But when analyzing high rez pictures of the skull, they realize that the middle part of the skull has cracks in it, which is usually seen in younger people (Hitler died when he was 56). When bone fragments were tested, it turns out the piece of skull was from a female.

    My first thought was that this piece of skull is probably from Eva Braun.

    Perhaps both Hitler and Braun took poison capsules, but it did not kill them quickly so Hitler either shot Eva or Eva shot herself, and when she was dead Hitler shot himself.

    Any thoughts?
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    I do believe that Frau Hitler took the capsule at about the same time as Herr Hitler, or slightly before. If this is true, as the history books say, Hitler would have had no time to shoot his wife as she was poisoned. Having taken his own capsule just after her, as seems likely, the effects would be nearly instantaneous and he would not have had time to kill Eva. Cyanide works painfully quickly (painfully because this is Hitler we're talking about), and there would simply not have been time for him to be sure Eva was dead. It must have been something like: Eva takes the capsule, then Hitler bites down on his capsule with his left hand, his gun in his right hand (the left would not have been steady enough to hold it by this stage in his life) against the temple.

    Of course, the cowardly general staff did not watch Hitler, nor could they have truly known who took the capsule first. Hitler, being the rotten animal he was, probably took the capsule after making sure Eva had taken hers. If I remember correctly, I do not believe Frau Hitler was shot, but then again, we don't have the bodies!
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    Going back to the female skull with the bullet exit wound, do you think it's Eva's or someone else? I think it would most likely be Eva's because it was found in the same room where Hitler killed himself. Perhaps Eva even had her own gun to shoot herself and Hitler had his own. Monarchist knows a lot more about this than I do, but maybe the history books are incorrect. Its happened before.
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    I go to the same university they did the tests on the skull and what not at. I don't trust our science dept. Neither should you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePatton View Post
    Going back to the female skull with the bullet exit wound, do you think it's Eva's or someone else? I think it would most likely be Eva's because it was found in the same room where Hitler killed himself. Perhaps Eva even had her own gun to shoot herself and Hitler had his own. Monarchist knows a lot more about this than I do, but maybe the history books are incorrect. Its happened before.
    I thought, by my own research, that the remaining General Staff officers who stayed behind cleared out all remains from Hitler's private suite. I doubt very much that they would have left any bits of skull behind. Both bodies were brought up through three levels of the Bunker and burned in the Chancellery Garden. There is a very slight possibility that the Red Army officers simply implanted some bone fragments in the Bunker to "keep everyone guessing". I think the Reds had bigger problems than this, though.

    It is a very interesting subject.
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