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    Default Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ls-on-him.html

    Gunther Link, a devout Catholic, prayed to be saved after he was trapped in a lift – but was killed when he went to church to give thanks and the stone altar fell on him.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    It is, you see, a rather symbolic occurrence. I wouldn't laugh if I were in your shoes. Or anyone's.

    Make sure that your soul is in good order, that's my advice.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Just as many cite the existence of God through coincidences. (I said "let there be rain", and God gave me rain.)

    Some could argue that the non-existence of god is chock full of coincidences.(which it is, the scenario in question being a terribly horrific, but incredibly ironic one.)

    Or you could just ignore God altogether

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    analysis:
    when God answered his prayers, the ingrateful man went to a false god's temple to give his thanks
    he was then struck down for his insolence.

    and who was this God?
    why, it was ganesh who answered his prayer

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Or perhaps God thought: see this guy is really a good believer. Let's spare him worse experiences.

    Or else, it means nothing.

    Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Or perhaps God thought: see this guy is really a good believer. Let's spare him worse experiences.

    Or else, it means nothing.

    Who knows.
    Nah, it was really a 6-armed Shiva B***h slap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Or perhaps God thought: see this guy is really a good believer. Let's spare him worse experiences.

    Or else, it means nothing.

    Who knows.
    Could be Karma or a Deva or the mysteries of gravity (sometimes gravity makes things go down).

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    You think you were joking, but you have just made a very insightful post (unknowingly).

    This is not about causal correlations, but about correlations in meaning.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Crushed to death for hugging a huge stone idol as a colourful way of being grateful. Ironic for one who genuinely believes he is following Abraham and the Prophets, certainly it is.

    And how exactly is this proof that God does not exist, OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Rushd View Post
    Crushed to death for hugging a huge stone idol as a colourful way of being grateful. Ironic for one who genuinely believes he is following Abraham and the Prophets, certainly it is.

    And how exactly is this proof that God does not exist, OP?
    Forgive me, maybe it's proof that a tyrannical and cruel God exists, you're right.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Forgive me, maybe it's proof that a tyrannical and cruel God exists, you're right.
    Death is not cruel nor tyrannical, but a consequence of being alive.

    Many will change gratefulness for bitterness, though. It's part of human nature.
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    It remains to be seen if he realized he was doing something wrong. Generally, the altar is not an idol but a place where the presence of God is supposed to reside during mass (incorporeally and symbolically).

    The person is question is dead, I guess it is rather unkind to speculate on his earthly merits now.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Generally, the altar is not an idol but a place where the presence of God is supposed to reside during mass (incorporeally and symbolically).
    That fits with the definition of an idol quite well. Still, no need to engage in a semantic struggle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The person is question is dead, I guess it is rather unkind to speculate on his earthly merits now.
    That is correct. Not of us to Judge.
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    One has to pray in some direction, as I suspect you know.

    I am though glad that to a degree we can concur.
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    There's no evidence suggesting that the cause of the statue's collapse is due to supernatural means.
    I firstly suspect poor workmanship or simply age of the structure.
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    The obvious lesson is, regardless of how strong your faith is, to pay attention to large, heavy objects on the verge of falling on you.

    Why is it that mysteries are always about something bad? You never hear there's a mystery, and then it's like, "Who made cookies?"
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Quote Originally Posted by chriscase View Post
    The obvious lesson is, regardless of how strong your faith is, to pay attention to large, heavy objects on the verge of falling on you.
    Well said; +rep.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    It's just unlucky, I suppose.

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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    Well, what do these guys who make random occurances to be proof of god say now? Is it random or a sign from god this time?
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    Default Re: Is this proof that God doesn't exist? Or that God has a sense of irony?

    How incredibly awful. I don't think this has any supernatural meaning. A coincidence is all.
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