Gaining traits?

**ALZU** · September 21, 2009, 06:24 PM

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**Kazuhiro** · September 21, 2009, 07:16 PM

Lol.
Never got the last one, but the other two I've seen often enough. It's a mistake.
Modders are people too

**ALZU** · September 21, 2009, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by TheKnightRoberts

Lol.
Never got the last one, but the other two I've seen often enough. It's a mistake.
Modders are people too

well yea,

but.. srsly is it too hard to make traits less buggy

im no M2TW modder though so if they havent eradicated it its because its impossible... or nobody cares

**Goofy** · September 21, 2009, 11:47 PM

@ALZU: Go to export_descr_character_traits (you can search it in your SS directory by pressing Ctrl+F). Down in the file you should see something like this (this is an example):

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That red number shows how likely the trait is to appear (100 is max). If you want to get better priests, edit priests' traits to appear more likely by increasing that number.
Sorry if it was a bit hard to understand.

**Byg** · September 22, 2009, 02:43 PM

I would have thought that if your Heir has the Faction Leader trait, having just looked at the code in both 6.1 and 6.2 that you must have an installation problem as that trait can only be obtained on the point of becoming the faction leader. If that one is out then I'm not suprised the other are. What have you installed?

**ALZU** · September 22, 2009, 05:07 PM

yea well that campaign became buggy after a while i dont know why, first, battles didint work, then after reinstall, it crashed when reaching the Papal states turn. So i gave up and now im playing a normal campaign with the templars

Originally Posted by FinnKing

@ALZU: Go to export_descr_character_traits (you can search it in your SS directory by pressing Ctrl+F). Down in the file you should see something like this (this is an example):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

That red number shows how likely the trait is to appear (100 is max). If you want to get better priests, edit priests' traits to appear more likely by increasing that number.
Sorry if it was a bit hard to understand.

umm but how does that prevent him from getting naval traits???? xD

**Goofy** · September 22, 2009, 11:45 PM

Then decrease the chance of getting them, in the same way.

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Originally Posted by PerXX

That still has nothing to do with his problem. The problem is that the wrong sort of characters are getting traits that should affect them. Increasing/decreasing the chance for the trait to show up in generel doesn't address that problem at all.

Didn't feel up to read this completely... I just thought that the problem is that he doesn't get good agents or generals.
Stupid me!

**PerXX** · September 23, 2009, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by FinnKing

Then decrease the chance of getting them, in the same way.

That still has nothing to do with his problem. The problem is that the wrong sort of characters are getting traits that should affect them. Increasing/decreasing the chance for the trait to show up in generel doesn't address that problem at all.

**Caesar Clivus** · September 23, 2009, 04:03 AM

Ok I had a look in the traits file and there is no way that a priest can get the Poor Navigator trait. The trait can only be gained by admirals:

Code:

Trait Landlubber
    Characters admiral
    AntiTraits Sailor

    Level Poor_Navigator
        Description Poor_Navigator_desc
        EffectsDescription Poor_Navigator_effects_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Effect NavalCommand -1

and the trigger

Code:

Trigger admiral2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition AgentType = admiral
          and not WonBattle
          and BattleOdds > 1.5

    Affects Landlubber  1  Chance  100

So this isn't a bug with SS, but a bug in M2TW in general.