Wiki Questions & Help

**Augustus Lucifer** · September 20, 2009, 12:12 AM

Use this thread to ask questions about the wiki or get help on editing it. Everyone should be confident and able to edit the wiki and the pages we use for development purposes, so if you're having trouble please ask here, rather than saying wiki editing isn't for you and hindering your contributions and team communication.

**LiKui** · September 23, 2009, 04:31 PM

What is the relationship between the wiki and the forum? For example, I saw a thread on the forum about horses. I have some information about where horses came into China and what kind during the Tang dynasty which might be useful for the mod (just need to verify these relationships for the Song dynasty). Anyway, do I put that information in the horse thread on the forum, or do I create a page on horses under the Research section of the wiki? Or both? Are you hoping to move all the forum info over to the wiki, or is there a more specific purpose for the wiki?

**Augustus Lucifer** · September 23, 2009, 05:18 PM

They are interconnected and should be linked back and forth liberally. The forum is a much better place for discussion whereas the wiki is a much better place for storing content and information. Anything that requires a list or information gathering should preferably be done on the wiki and have a Discussion Thread on the forum.

So for horses I'd suggest we make a page about horses on the wiki and consolidate whatever information we have there and convert any forum thread to a discussion thread with a link to the page on the wiki. Forum threads can get seriously unruly, seriously fast, when it comes to compiling information, and searching or sifting through them becomes tedious. Wikis on the other hand can be edited by anyone with access so they're all centrally located, or can be branched out using categories for ease of reference. There's just so much better about the wiki when it comes to this, that I'd like to see a lot of things located there.

For horses we could make a page, like to it from Dev:Main_Page in the research section, and start putting in information with links to images. Then if it gets to big it can always be split into types, or factions, or etc. and those articles be added to a category and linked to from a main horse page or portal. The possibilities in that respect are vast and enable quick editing and referencing of the information.

So if you want to move the information in this thread to the wiki, I'll remove that thread and make a new discussion thread which links to the wiki page.

**Augustus Lucifer** · September 23, 2009, 05:38 PM

I've created a Horses page on the wiki. That page and the unit page give examples of how we should be listing images on the wiki, so we don't have huge pictures. Feel free to mess around with it.

**LiKui** · September 23, 2009, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Augustus Lucifer

I've created a Horses page on the wiki. That page and the unit page give examples of how we should be listing images on the wiki, so we don't have huge pictures. Feel free to mess around with it.

Cool. I'll add my info in there when I get the chance.

On another note, I began editing the Unit Rosters on the wiki. If you wouldn't mind, can you look over it and give me any feedback if there's something done wrong. Also, the information I entered I culled from faction threads on the forum. It's possible some of the information could be outdated, so if there are any updates and you or someone else doesn't have time to enter it, I can do it. Just let me know.

I don't have individual pages for them because I don't know how to create one yet, and I didn't know if these were the right units. Plus, I just wanted to get some data entered so we could have something to work with and hopefully make it easier to see what needs to be done or changed.

If you don't need those "LiKui's notes" I added below the tables, just delete them ( or tell me and I can delete it). I put them there so you would know where I got that data from.

**Augustus Lucifer** · September 25, 2009, 12:00 AM

It looks fine to me. One thing we might want to do is not include non-english characters in the unit names for the table. We can add the native language translation on the unit page. The reason for this is it could mess with the URL of the page.

To create a unit page, left-click on the name of the unit in the table which appears as a red link when the page doesn't exist. Then go to the page for Dao Militia and edit that page, just copy paste everything there to the new page and edit the information contained therein as necessary. For the unit tables on the upper right of each unit page, I made each left-side label clickable and it will take you to a page which explains what values should be input there.

Some of the units listed like the four Japanese ones are completed, so don't need to be listed as Vetting and can be moved to the top section. They might be upgraded later but that's why we have the Upgrade tag to slap em with if we need to later.

**KR153** · October 02, 2009, 12:39 PM

Hi everyone! I´ve put an entry in the unit roster wiki (battle monk).Since this was the first time please look it up and let me know if this is how you wanted it.(pm me)

PS: It´s in the Minamoto/ Taira section

Okay, can anybody give me wiki- "wiki"?
I´d like to make something like the horses page for helmets, weapons ect and other groups but don´t know if you are cool with that AND i don´t know how!

Reworked battle monk unit card. If you want something to be changed, please tell me how. First time EVER i did something like this

**Augustus Lucifer** · October 02, 2009, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by KR153

Hi everyone! I´ve put an entry in the unit roster wiki (battle monk).Since this was the first time please look it up and let me know if this is how you wanted it.(pm me)

PS: It´s in the Minamoto/ Taira section

The entry looked good, the pictures and descriptions are exactly the kind of thing we want for prospective units.

Originally Posted by KR153

Okay, can anybody give me wiki- "wiki"?
I´d like to make something like the horses page for helmets, weapons ect and other groups but don´t know if you are cool with that AND i don´t know how!

Type in the name of the page you want in the search bar on the side and it should say 'page not found', and then allow you to create the page. Alternatively you can type the name of the page you want to create into the URL bar after /auhwiki/ and it will bring you to a new page where you can choose to edit it. I'd recommend separate pages for each 'type' of equipment. So: Helmets and Headgear, Shields, Gloves and Boots, Armor, Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons. Seems like a nice divide so there isn't too much content on any one page.

Originally Posted by KR153

Reworked battle monk unit card. If you want something to be changed, please tell me how. First time EVER i did something like this

It looks fine to me. A couple things to keep in mind for next time:

- All art for a proposed unit should go in the 'Concept Art' section rather than the 'Unit Art' section which is more for completed art(like screenshots of the unit in-game).

- What goes in the unit information box on the unit page is defined here. Notably 'Recruitment' and 'Armor Level' refer to other things than might seem obvious.

I fixed those things, other than that it looked good. Also, we actually already had created the unit which you proposed, so I renamed the unit page to the name it had in the preview and put it as Completed.

**Yelü Dashi** · October 02, 2009, 07:10 PM

I'm not sure I understand how the wiki is being used. this page now looks like its a research/concept art page ...but I've already made this unit ?
Can people at least check first as to whether the item you're creating wiki content for something that has been completed, i.e the old-fashioned way by searching the forums !

**Augustus Lucifer** · October 02, 2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Yelü Dashi

I'm not sure I understand how the wiki is being used. this page now looks like its a research/concept art page ...but I've already made this unit ?
Can people at least check first as to whether the item you're creating wiki content for something that has been completed, i.e the old-fashioned way by searching the forums !

Well even completed units can do with a page, they're simply listed as completed on the roster. The unit page also serves for numerous other checklist purposes which aren't completed, such as those listed in the box in the upper right. As for art, if more information comes up for instance about elements of a unit that could use tweaks or et cetera, it's much easier to have it all condensed on the page for that unit if we want to slate it for an upgrade later.

**KR153** · October 03, 2009, 03:25 PM

I´ve worked on the wiki again. I understood that you wanted EVERY unit to have a card wether it is already finished or not,right? So I put some japanese up with some more info. One more question: the place I put my name in, is it supposed to have one? Or just Vetting, Completed and so on? I guess it´s a remaining of my street bombing times, just want to put my name everywhere!

**Augustus Lucifer** · October 03, 2009, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by KR153

I´ve worked on the wiki again. I understood that you wanted EVERY unit to have a card wether it is already finished or not,right? So I put some japanese up with some more info. One more question: the place I put my name in, is it supposed to have one? Or just Vetting, Completed and so on? I guess it´s a remaining of my street bombing times, just want to put my name everywhere!

Yeah, every unit should have its own page. The place you put your name in is fine, that column is supposed to mean either the person who can be contacted about a proposed unit, or the person who's the point of contact for the work that has been done on a unit. Essentially it's the person or people who can help resolve any questions an artist might have in depicting the unit.