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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Or if you post something there is always someone dumb enough to believe it at face value.
    בָּמָה bamah "high place" literally a mountain or hilltop. Also used of sites giving control of the land or places of worship. In Am 7:9 "Isaac's high places" are presumably where Adonai was worshiped. In 4:13 - with perhaps intentional ambiguity - it is not clear in what sense Adonai "treads the high places".
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    http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=01117&version=kjv

    Bamah = "high place"
    1.a place in Palestine (of places of idolatrous worship)


    http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/...00&version=nas

    Baraq:

    NAS Word Usage - Total: 21
    flash like lightning 1, flashing 1, gleaming 2, glittering point 1, lightning 9, lightning flashes 3, lightnings 4
    In revelations 2:14

    Revelations 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
    Nicolatians: The word Nicolatians, meaning follower of Nicolaus, which in the Greek comes from the two Greek words nikos (conquer) and laos (people) in other words conquer the people. The word Baalam is a Hebrew word meaning not of the people or destroy the people. In other words Nicolatians and Balaam mean the same thing in Greek and Hebrew. They represent false prophets who infiltrate the church to destroy the people of God through idolatry and sexual immorality
    Interesting, as I was saying. Whoever says it.

    The second part of the last etimology is somehow dubious (Balaam).


    Quote Originally Posted by masliko View Post
    Lol

    Symbolically very interesting, beyond the superficial laughter.


    You can also clearly see that little plaque(?) with a terminal B inscribed on it. The light falling on him in the sunset, something of an earthly baptism. The rose, you see, is a powerful symbol. 13 roses. An inspired painting, surely.

    The plaque is also, in the right hand.


    The 13th arcane of tarot.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(symbolism)

    According to some Biblical legends, the original rose growing in the Garden of Eden was white, but turned red as it blushed with shame upon Adam and Eve's fall from grace.
    http://www.meridianmagazine.com/gosp...60718ot30.html

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    Baal Storm God and Fertility God

    Baal was a Canaanite god of fertility and the storm. His name means lord, master, husband. Each of these names could appropriately be applied to Jehovah, so it is no surprise that many Israelites felt that there was no harm in worshiping Baal as well as Jehovah since they were spoken of in such similar terms (why not cover all of your bases just in case?).

    No doubt there were many Israelites who sinned out of ignorance, due to the superficial religious similarities between Baal and Jehovah, yet there were many who consciously chose to turn to Baal. Against both groups the prophets spoke vehemently and warningly.

    According to ancient Canaanite belief, it was Baal who was the giver and sustainer of life. Because he was the god of storm, he brought the rains of life that fertilized the crops in the semi-arid land. By extension he ensured the fertility of both man and beast as well, but in order to claim such blessings he had to be worshipped properly.

    Location was a key aspect of proper worship. Thus, ancient Canaanites established altars and places of worship dedicated to Baal on high hills, for the belief was that high hills that reached towards heaven were sacred locations. There was something of a franchise of Baal worship. There was not just one single locale, one single high place where he was worshiped.

    Since most of the people were connected to agricultural or pastoral communities, it would be both difficult and unreasonable to expect all of the people to gather at one national/central location to worship. Rather, families and communities established their own ritual centers near to where they lived and worked, and hired their own priests and priestesses to perform the important sacred functions that would maintain the fertility of earth, man and beast.

    In contrast, the righteous leaders of Israel sought to establish but one sacred location and legitimate center of worship and ritual for their God of Salvation. This of course was Jerusalem. For many Israelites, it simply was not convenient or possible to travel such a long distance for their sacred acts of worship. How could a shepherd leave behind his flocks in the lower Galilee region to travel some 70 miles (probably requiring nearly a week of travel) to praise his God?

    In most cases, Israelites felt that it was much more useful to create their own places of worship and their own forms of worship. Those who were most committed to Jehovah and heeded the clarion call of His prophets and appointed leaders made the sacrifice to center their worship at Jerusalem.


    Characteristics of Green Language (Langage Vert) http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9291.0

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    The following alphabetic list of Green Language techniques
    used by Nostradamus is probably not complete, but
    will certainly cover adequately the examples discussed in
    this present work. The names attached to the techniques, as
    denotations, are, with one exception, derived from the
    literary tradition. The single exception is the term 'occult
    blind', which is derived from the occult tradition. The fact
    that we can examine the techniques of Nostradamus in the
    light of the analytical tools of English literature should not
    disguise the fact that Nostradamus often made up his own
    linguistic rules. This, of course, means that in some cases
    his methods are beyond simple classification. We have
    attempted to give some insight into this complex use of
    words below.

    ANAGRAM
    A word, or phrase, in which the letters may
    be transported so as to form a new word or phrase. In
    Nostradamus, the word Rapis stands for Paris: in this case,
    as in most anagrams constructed by the master, the
    anagrammatic treatment is not merely intended to deceive
    or confuse, but also to produce a secondary meaning
    (raptor, rapist or raped) which would be relevant to the
    quatrain. The rape of Paris during the siege of 1870-71
    would be a relevant example. Mendosus, which some have
    wrongly translated as meaning 'the liar', is directly from the
    Latin meaning 'full of faults', or 'deceptive'. The word is
    probably an aphetic anagram for Vendosme, or Vendome,
    which may relate either to the department of that name or
    (more likely) to one or other of the Dukes of Vendome.
    Nostradamus appears to have used few ana grammatic
    sentences, but perhaps the most famous was the triple PAU
    NAY LORAN, which was not a bad approximation, in the
    sixteenth century, for NAPAULON ROY (see page 346).
    Chien is said to be a syncopic anagram (see SYNCOPE) for
    Chiren, which is in turn Henrie, a sixteenth-century way of
    spelling the name of Henri II.

    ANASTROPHE
    A word used in Green Language to
    denote the reversing of a word, sometimes in terms only of
    letter forms, at other times only in terms of sound-values.
    An example of the latter, mentioned on page 38, is the
    anastrophe of HIRAM to MARIA, where the sound-value
    of the final A is regarded as being the equivalent of the
    Hebraic H. In exoteric literature the word is sometimes
    used to denote an unusual order of words, as well as
    Incomplete inversions. If this ground rule were adopted in
    the study of Nostradamus, then virtually every line of the
    Propheries must be considered anastrophic.

    ANTONOMASIA
    The substitution of an epithet to
    stand for a proper name, or the use of a proper name to
    represent a general idea. A few of the antonomastic words
    joined by Nostradamus reflect his clairvoyance and his love
    for irony. For example, his word doux, the French for
    'sweet, gentle and affable' stands for Jacques Clement, who
    assassinated Henry III in 1588: in Presage 58 - derived
    from a quatrain in one of his almanacs - Clement is Doux la
    pernicie. Nostradamus is being ironic, for the Latin clemens
    means just about the same as the French doux.

    Appearing frequently, le grand, or la Dame, are used to indicate
    important or famous people, whose identities must be
    determined from other clues within the context of the
    quatrain. We are reminded that in the entry for the month
    of his own death (see page 57 ff), Nostradamus predicted
    the deaths of les grands: the plural may be taken as a
    reference to the fact that Nostredame is a plural possessive.
    In at least three quatrains, La Dame is Catherine de'
    Medici, but the same word also represents Marie Antoinette
    in two verses. La grande cite is sometimes Paris. Le
    Pelletier notes that la grande cite neuve (the great new city),
    which some modern commentators have read as meaning
    New York, is a reference to the Paris reconstructed under
    Napoleon III.

    In quatrain X.49, on the other hand, the cite
    neufve is definitely Naples (the ancient Neapolis, 'new city'
    in Greek) - see page 366. In total contrast, the Cite neufue
    of quatrain 1.24 is a reference to the name of the French
    Vice-Admiral, Villeneuve (ville means 'town'), who served
    under Napoleon - see page 369 ff. Precisely which new city
    Nostradamus has in mind may only be determined from the
    context of the quatrain.

    APHESIS
    Omission of a letter or syllable at the beginning
    of a word. For example, Nostradamus uses the word
    bondance for abondance: his aim is not merely to aid
    scansion, but to introduce the notion of the bondage to
    which abundance can give rise. The intriguing use to which
    Nostradamus put the simple word eau (water) is instructive,
    for in some cases it represented the water triplicities
    (Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces) by antonomasia.

    Just to add to the confusion, Nostradamus uses the same construction, in
    other cases, to represent Aquarius, by the aphesis of the
    French Verseau (as in quatrain IV.86 - see p. 283), and in
    others, it represented a river or a sea. A simple aphetic
    anagram used by Nostradamus is the innocent-seeming
    Dedans (within, or in) which is intended to read Sedan, the
    first important battle of which led to the fall of Paris, in
    1871 (see p. 195). However, to make this reading viable as
    an anagram, the rule of aphesis must be applied.

    APOCOPE
    The omission of a letter or syllable from the
    ending of a word. The apocope Cap stands for Capet. A
    more complicated example isfum for fume, or fumee: smoke,
    or steam. In this case, as the apocope is in a quatrain
    dealing with a battle (see p. 229 ff), the word may be
    intended to suggest onomatopoeically the distant sound of
    cannon - fum. In quatrain III. 53, which deals partly with
    the treatment of the Jews under the Nazis, the two words Ie
    pris are probably abridged for lepre (leprosy), relating
    metaphorically to the Nuremburg laws. See also SYNCOPE.

    ARCANE ASSOCIATION
    This literary technique lies at the very basis of the Green Language: it is the use of
    specialist words in such a way that they may be interpreted
    as giving rise to further words with meanings evident only
    to those familiar with the specialism. Thus, since one
    zodiacal sign cannot be in another, the phrase Cancer in
    boeuf is meaningless, in quatrain X.67. This will lead the
    specialist to read Cancer as a reference to the Moon, as this
    planet rules uniquely over the zodiacal sign Cancer. The
    phrase would therefore read 'Moon in Taurus'.

    Nostradamus is particularly fond of this kind of Green Language.
    Perhaps more subtle is the way in which Nostradamus
    would refer arcanely to such things as horoscopes which
    contained data that reflected significantly upon the quatrain:
    for example, in quatrain 1.31 he evokes a horoscope
    which emphasizes the sign Leo to point to the three letters
    contained in Napoleon's name.

    Nostradamus is also fond of the arcane associations
    offered by degrees of latitude. When using this method,
    Nostradamus names a particular latitude (derived essentially
    from the astrological tradition) in order to designate a
    city or town. The main problem is that without the further
    coordinate of the longitude, such a reference is ambiguous.
    Thus, when Nostradamus refers to 45 degrees (actually,
    Cinq f5 quarante degrez) in quatrain VI.97, he could have in
    mind such cities as Bordeaux - perhaps even Perigueux Turin,
    and perhaps Pavia, Cremona and Mantua, and,
    given his clairvoyance, even Minneapolis, in the United
    States.

    However, he would not have had in mind those
    other cities of the USA which the irrepressible Roberts
    proposed, such as New York (which is at latitude 41
    degrees) and certainly not San Francisco (which is as low as
    36 degrees) nor even Chicago (which is in 42 degrees).

    Non-specialists have tended to misinterpret these degree
    references: for example, the first line of quatrain V.98 (A
    quarante-huit degre climatterique - 'At 48 degree climata')
    has been translated as relating to Paris, and this degree technically
    inaccurate as it is - is given in the standard
    astrological works of his day. However, this city is between
    48 and 49 degrees, whereas Orleans, Le Mans and Freiburg
    are exactly upon 48 degrees, and this means that there is
    considerable ambiguity in the quatrains for the modern
    reader.

    Contemporaneous astrological texts, such as the
    Orontius Fine of 1544, list latitudes for the main cities of
    Europe, and however wrong they may be by modern
    standards, they were widely adopted by sixteenth-century
    astrologers. In the tables of houses published by Luca
    Gauricus in 1533, the following are given:

    Sicily 37 degrees
    Rome 42 degrees
    Venice 45 degrees
    Bologna 45 degrees
    Paris 48 degrees
    London 54 degrees
    Berlin 54 degrees

    Fig. 53, taken from Oronce Fine, shows the latitudes for
    the south of France, from 42 to 47 degrees - hence just
    short of Paris - which we presume Nostradamus used.3 In
    the example, quatrain V.98, the word climatterique is an
    unnecessary repetition, perhaps intended to confuse the
    uninitiated. It is coined by Nostradamus to indicate that the
    degrees relate to the climata, the early-medieval equivalent
    of degrees of longitude, which were already almost defunct
    by the sixteenth century. In his Mundi Sphaera of 1542,
    Fine remarks that these latitudes are 'what the vulgar call
    the seven Climata'. When Nostradamus uses the degree
    system (or the word dimata, in one form or another), then
    he is clearly inviting one to regard the quatrain in terms of
    arcane astrology.

    ARCHAIZING
    The use of old terms to denote thingsand places.
    Nostradamus is fond of disguising his placenames
    by using Greek and Roman names. One archaizing
    name of which he is fond is Sextrophea, with which he
    sometimes signs his almanacs: this refers to the monument
    which still stands a mile or so outside his native SaintRemy.

    As we see, on page 211 ff, this archaizing enters into
    Ihe quatrains, though perhaps as a double occult blind.
    Nostradamus delights in the ambiguities which archaizing
    affords: for example, Ausonne is the old name for Bordeaux,
    hut the Latin Ausonia meant the inhabitants of lower Italy.
    When he uses this term, Nostradamus more frequently
    intends the latter meaning. Boristhenes, the old term for the
    river Dnieper, is archaizing for Russia. Lygustique (as in
    quatrain IIL23) is archaizing for Liguria, but it often means
    Italy, according to the law of SYNECDOCHE (see below).

    As though his astrology were not already complex enough,
    Nostradamus sometimes archaizes the planetary and zodiacal
    names, as for example in the brassieres of VII.91,
    derived from a Greek word which denoted Jupiter and
    Saturn. A most remarkable example of archaizing is in
    quatrain IX.14, which deals with the Battle of Waterloo,
    with the words Sept. and borneaux: see page 230 ff, above.

    EPENTHESIS
    The adding of a letter or syllable to the
    middle of a word. The Calpre of quatrain 1.77 is epenthesis
    1.77 Calpe, the cape near to Gibraltar .

    HOMONYMS
    Words having the same sound and/or
    spelling as another, but with a different meaning or origin.
    The word Selin was the name of a historical leader of the
    Turks (see page 242 ff), but it is also almost an homonym
    for Selene, a Greek name for the goddess of the Moon. The
    word Gaule is one of the names used by Nostradamus for
    France,yet it appears in a context wherein it may be taken
    as pointing to General Charles de Gaulle.

    In some cases,Nostradamus creates his own homonyms,
    to give a double connotation to a word. Thus, terroir can mean both
    territory and terror, though properly speaking terror is
    terreur, while terroir means soil or ground, in the sense of
    'territory' .

    HYPALLAGE
    When, in a figure of speech, the epithet is
    transferred from the appropriate noun to modify another,
    to which it does not properly belong. The most cunning
    hypallage in Nostradamus is one that kept commentators in
    ignorance until after the event: this is the last line of
    quatrain IV.65: L 'empereur tost mort sera condamne, from
    which one assumes (quite wrongly, as it happens) that the
    emperor lately dead will be condemned. The solution to the
    hypallage is given on page 378 ff.

    HYPHAERESIS
    The omission of a letter to form a
    word. Sometimes, the omitted letter can be of considerable
    importance to the reading of the text. Nostradamus
    frequently omits the letter s from words, without inserting
    the traditional circumflex: an example which appears in
    several quatrains is the hyphaeresis matim for mastim
    (mastiff), as for example in quatrain X.59. In quatrain
    III.53, Gaul is represented as Gale (see however HOMONYMS,
    above). A typical hyphaeresis is Aper for Asper
    which is an anagram of Aspre. This is in turn an ellipsis for
    Aspromonte (a 'massif' in Italy), which Le Pelletier links
    with an incident from the life of Garibaldi.

    ICONOMATIC
    This usage occurs when a word is
    intended to be read as a rebus, as though relating to a
    figure. Nostradamus, working only with words, uses the
    rebus technique suggested by the Horapollo or Icon books.
    The word coq is Gallus in Latin, which connotes France
    (the word Gallus in Latin meant both -John Thomas- and that area of
    Europe which corresponds approximately to modern
    France).

    However, the Gallus was also a priest of Cybele
    (the name said to be derived from the similarity between
    the delirious ravings of the priests and the crowing of
    cocks), and the connotation hinted at in the word coq is
    emasculation (a condition attributed to the priests of
    Cybele). In many instances, loup (wolf) is Italy, after the
    wolf which suckled Romulus and Remus. On the other
    hand, Romulides is also derived from the name of the
    'founder of Rome', Romulus, and may denote either Rome,
    or Italy. In quatrain I. 9, it seems to relate to the south of
    Italy, whence succour came for the great siege of Malta, in
    1565. One iconomatic word has survived (like coq) into
    modern symbolism, for l'ours (the bear) is sometimes used
    of Russia.

    INVENTION
    The invention of a new word only peripherally
    connected with an existing word in a familiar
    language. In Nostradamus, the familiar language is usually
    Greek or Latin, but he occasionally invents from Hebrew,
    and such European languages as English, German, Italian
    and Provencial. The phrase Mars en Nonnay is invention,
    for there is no such planetary position: almost certainly, the
    Nonnay is Virgo, from the French nonne, or nonnain, as in
    quatrain X.67. Another example is the sedifragues of
    quatrain VI.94, which is from the Latin sedem frangere, 'to
    break a siege'.

    The phrase, Le Port Phocen, for Marseilles,
    seems to be a more complex invention, for the Greek Phocis
    was in ancient times a country of central Greece. The
    seaport town of Massilia, founded as a colony from
    Phocoea, was eventually known as Marseilles. Perhaps
    Nostradamus used the ancient Greek reference because the
    Phocens were warlike, being allied at times with the
    Spartans. The bellicose planet Mars, which begins the
    modern name Marseilles, is connoted in the French word.

    Phocus (with its undertones of homonymous 'focus') is not
    merely Marseilles, but a warlike Marseilles in a state of
    martial endeavour, or even revolution.

    METATHESIS
    The interchanging of consonant sounds to produce different (though relevant) words.
    For example, brune is metathesed by Nostradamus in brume. In quatrain
    III.53, which deals with the Second World War, Nostradamus
    subjects the German place name Augsburg to metathesis
    by rendering it Auspurg. The new word is relevant
    because the quatrain seems to relate to the expulsion of the
    Jews, (literally, an aus purgans, to remain with the German)
    under the Nuremburg Laws.

    METONYM
    A word used as a valid transference, in
    which an attribute of a thing or person is used to denote
    that thing or person. The word bossu, deformed, is used as a
    metonym for the prince of Conde, who was a small
    hunchback. A better example from Nostradamus is the
    word boiteux (lame) which could refer to the Duke of
    Bordeaux, who was lamed in a fall at Kirchberg in Austria
    in 1841.

    The application in this case is virtually double
    because of the close HOMONYM between boiteux and
    Bordeaux. In quatrain V.4, le cerfis probably a metaphor for
    Charles X, who was chased from France. Used in this
    sense, cerf is a metonym, yet it is something more than
    merely a metonym in its reference to Charles X as a hunted
    creature, driven from the fields of France. Charles, prior to
    being made king of France, was the Count of Artois: the
    cerf is, of course, the hart in English. After he was driven
    from France, he went to England. (By a strange coincidence,
    during his first stay in this country, he lived at
    Hartwell.)

    PARAGOGE
    The adding of a letter or syllable to the end
    of a word. Selene is a paragoge for Selin, but the former is
    intended to add an additional connotation to the latter, by
    virtue of its connection with the Moon (Selene was an
    ancient Moon goddess). The French word Amerique, which
    was used for the Americas in the sixteenth century, was
    sujected by Nostradamus to both SYNCOPE (Amerique to
    Americ), and paragoge when he offered the word Americh:
    whether this is paragoge or METATHESIS is anyone's guess.
    This version of the word appears in the first line of
    quatrain X.66.

    Whether he wanted to connote the fabulous
    riches (rich) of the place, which were in his day being
    exploited by the Spanish, or whether he had some other
    arcane design in mind is unclear. One thing is evident,
    however: in making this change, he elected for once not to
    make a rhyme with the third line (the normal rhyming
    structure is alternative in couplets).

    The word which would
    anticipate such a rhyme is Antechrist. The fact that the H of
    the Roman alphabet is the equivalent of the E of the Greek
    alphabet is probably significant here, for the difference
    between Antechrist and Antichrist is of profound importance
    in the arcane and theological traditions. Perhaps
    Nostradamus is anxious to show that he is writing of the
    one: who comes before Christ (Antechrist), rather than of
    the one who will oppose Christ (Antichrist).

    PROTOTHESIS The adding or a letter or syllable to the
    beginning of a word.

    REBUS A riddle by which pictures, letters or sentences
    are read in terms of sound values. It is not surprising that
    Nostradamus should have used this device, since the rebus
    (for all it is a Latin word) was highly popular in France
    during the sixteenth century, when it was called 'style de
    Picardie'. It has been argued by many that the dedication to
    Henry II, in the Epistle, was to some other king than the
    one who died in a golden cage (see page 236 ff).

    This argument (to which we do not subscribe) is supported by
    the reading of the words Henry II as Henri secundus, which
    means (in Latin), Fortunate Henry. Although the rebus is
    essentially a pictorially based art, Nostradamus uses it in
    clever literary ways. For example, he will refer to an
    heraldic coat of arms in order to distinguish (arcanely, of
    course) a ruler.

    The lys can be a French king, because the
    French coat of arms bears the fleur-de-Iys (see page 223).
    The classical French rebus is Ga, which reads G grand, a
    petit (big G, small a): When pronounced in French, this
    reads: J'ai grand appefit (I have a big appetite). The word
    rebus is probably the only term used to denote a form of
    Green Language which is itself from that same strange
    tongue.

    Rebus, in its arcane sense, seems to be from
    alchemy, and is linked with Rebis, which means in ablative
    Latin, 'the thing twice'. The thing twice is the thing seen
    from two aspects, once in a material sense, a second time in
    a spiritual sense. The construction should remind us that
    the initiate is sometimes called 'the one of the two levels'.

    In some alchemical documents, the rebis is said to be an
    egg, or the contents of an egg, consisting of red and white,
    'in the same proportion as in a bird's egg'. In this image,
    the red is the yolk, the white the glair.

    There are seven levels to every alchemical symbol, but this red
    and white is the blood and tissue of the human being who, as the
    Buddha said, lives in an eggshell, even though the shell of
    the philosophic alchemist is a far from auric thing,
    sheathing bodies quite invisible to ordinary vision.

    The Red (rouge) and the White (blanc) to which Nostradamus
    frequently refers in his quatrains, are at once alchemical,
    political and ecclesiastical symbols, according to the spiritual
    literacy of the reader. See also ICONOMATIC.

    SYNCOPE A Greek word meaning 'cutting short' - in
    literature, an abbreviation. Technically, the word is virtually
    interchangeable with APOCOPE, but it seems to be
    accepted practice to denote massive cuts by syncope and
    the lesser abbreviations by apocope.

    For example, the Ast of quatrain II.15 is apocope for the place name, Asti. On
    the other hand, in quatrain II.83, the word pille (quatrain
    II.83) is syncope for pillard or pillage (pillage, or destruction).

    The syncope Phi means Philip. The word Auge,
    which could be taken as the German for 'eye', could also be
    a syncope of the verb Augmenter. As with the anagrams, one
    purpose (beyond mere disguise) is to add a further meaning
    to the word: thus, Carats may mean Carcassonne, but the
    word also carries with it the idea of a dead body (carcasse),
    and hence a killing. Foreign syncopes are words or phrases
    derived from non-French sources, and in some way
    changed so as not to be immediately recognizable.

    Cron is an abridgement for the Greek Cronon, its significance in
    quatrain III.91 being that it is linked with a lame prince:
    not only is this prince in some way imperfect, but so is the
    word Cron an 'imperfect' form of a word. In this context,
    see boiteux under METONYM. The most remarkable sentence
    syncope we deal with in our text is the last line of
    quatrain IX.14, marked with the distinctive abridgment sign
    Sept., which we discuss on page 230. This is a curious
    apocope, for it is not completed until the last word of the
    same line.

    SYNECDOCHEA literary technique of 'part for the
    whole', by which a less comprehensive term (such as the
    name of a town) is used to represent a more comprehensive
    Icrm (in this case, the country in which this town is
    located). The quatrains of Nostradamus abound in synecdoches.
    A good example is Londres (London) to represent
    England, or even the British Isles. In quatrain VII.26
    Madrid stands for Spain, the Chef de Madrid being the
    Spanish Admiral.

    The more obscure Boristhenes is the old
    name of the Dnieper, and therefore an example of archaizing,
    but Nostradamus uses it to denote the vast territories
    divided by this river - notably, the territory to the east,
    which is mainly Russia. Blois may stand for that city, but it
    may also stand for a particular ruler associated with Blois,
    such as Henry of Guise. The Liguriens should really mean
    those from Liguria, or the Genoese, but the word may also
    stand for the Italians as a whole. A remarkably prescient
    example of synecdoche by Nostradamus is his use of the
    word Isles to denote Britain, as the British Isles.


    The use of Green Language would justify the Balak/Baraq instead of Barack interpretation.
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    Cool story, brah.

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    I'm very sorry to do this Ummon, as this thread is out of my depth, but when I saw the above all I could think about was this, and I hope it doesn't make me a bad person. I think it was the roses.

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    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Erm, what are you trying to prove/disprove here Ummon? Your post is rather vague.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    C am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu brth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhthein buaile fs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an ird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jrg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Trnen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Trnen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    I'm very sorry to do this Ummon, as this thread is out of my depth, but when I saw the above all I could think about was this, and I hope it doesn't make me a bad person. I think it was the roses.

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    Well, all connections are possible. But that's certainly not extremely exegetic...

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    Erm, what are you trying to prove/disprove here Ummon? Your post is rather vague.
    Discussing meanings and coincidences, mostly.

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    Cool fairytale man

    "Just searching for a world with some soul..."

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    http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Balaam.html

    The meaning of the name Balaam is multifarious. One suggestion is a combination of the words (bal 1640b), not, plus ('im 1640b), people. Hence, 'not of the people,' or a foreigner. This interpretation is now no longer considered founded on possible etymology (...) but there is no law against being reminded of these words.


    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.vii.xxvi.html

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    Chapter XXV.The fraud, pride, and tyrannical kingdom of Antichrist, as described by
    Daniel and Paul.
    1. And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king. For he (Antichrist) being enbued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an impious, unjust, and lawless one; as an apostate, iniquitous and murderous; as a robber, concentrating in himself [all] satanic apostasy, and setting aside idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising up himself as
    the only idol, having in himself the multifarious errors of the other idols. This he does, in order that they who do [now] worship the devil by means of many abominations, may serve himself by this one idol, of whom the apostle thus speaks in the second Epistle to the Thessalonians: Unless there shall come a failing away first, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God. The apostle therefore clearly points out his apostasy, and that he is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshippedthat is, above every idol for these are indeed so called by men, but are not [really] gods; and that he will endeavour in a tyrannical manner to set himself forth as God.
    2. Moreover, he (the apostle) has also pointed out this which I have shown in many ways, that the temple in Jerusalem was made by the direction of the true God. For the apostle himself, speaking in his own person, distinctly called it the temple of God. Now I have shown in the third book, that no one is termed God by the apostles when speaking for themselves, except Him who truly is God, the Father of our Lord, by whose directions the temple which is at Jerusalem was constructed for those purposes which I have already mentioned; in which [temple] the enemy shall sit, endeavouring to show himself as Christ, as the Lord also declares: But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, which has been spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand), then let those who are in Judea flee into the mountains; and he who is upon the house-top, let him not come down to take anything out of his house: for there shall then be great hardship, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be.4664
    3. Daniel too, looking forward to the end of the last kingdom, i.e., the ten last kings, amongst whom the kingdom of those men shall be partitioned, and upon whom the son of perdition shall come, declares that ten horns shall spring from the beast, and that another little horn shall arise in the midst of them, and that three of the former shall be rooted up before his face. He says: And, behold, eyes were in this horn as the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things, and his look was more stout than his fellows. I was looking, and this horn made war against the saints, and prevailed against them, until the Ancient of days came and gave judgment to the saints of the most high God, and the time came, and the saints obtained the kingdom.4665 Then, further on, in the interpretation of the vision, there was said to him: The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall excel all other kingdoms, and devour the whole earth, and tread it down, and cut it in pieces. And its ten horns are ten kings which shall arise; and after them shall arise another, who shall surpass in evil deeds all that were before him, and shall overthrow three kings; and he shall speak words against the most high God, and wear out the saints of the most high God, and shall purpose to change times and laws; and [everything] shall be given into his hand until a time of times and a half time,4666 that is, for three years and six months, during which time, when he comes, he shall reign over the earth. Of whom also the Apostle Paul again, speaking in the second [Epistle] to the Thessalonians, and at the same time proclaiming the cause of his advent, thus says: And then shall the wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the spirit of His mouth, and destroy by the presence of His coming; whose coming [i.e., the wicked ones] is after the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and portents of lies, and with all deceivableness of wickedness for those who perish; because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And therefore God will send them the working of error, that they may believe a lie; that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but gave consent to iniquity,4667
    4. The Lord also spoke as follows to those who did not believe in Him: I have come in my Fathers name, and ye have not received Me: when another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive,4668 calling Antichrist the other, because he is alienated from the Lord. This is also the unjust judge, whom the Lord mentioned as one who feared not God, neither regarded man,4669 to whom the widow fled in her forgetfulness of God,that is, the earthly Jerusalem,to be avenged of her adversary. Which also he shall do in the time of his kingdom: he shall remove his kingdom into that [city], and shall sit in the temple of God, leading astray those who worship him, as if he were Christ. To this purpose Daniel says again: And he shall desolate the holy place; and sin has been given for a sacrifice,4670 and righteousness been cast away in the earth, and he has been active (fecit), and gone on prosperously.4671 And the angel Gabriel, when explaining his vision, states with regard to this person: And towards the end of their kingdom a king of a most fierce countenance shall arise, one understanding [dark] questions, and exceedingly powerful, full of wonders; and he shall corrupt, direct, influence (faciet), and put strong men down, the holy people likewise; and his yoke shall be directed as a wreath [round their neck]; deceit shall be in his hand, and he shall be lifted up in his heart: he shall also ruin many by deceit, and lead many to perdition, bruising them in his hand like eggs.4672 And then he points out the time that his tyranny shall last, during which the saints shall be put to flight, they who offer a pure sacrifice unto God: And in the midst of the week, he says, the sacrifice and the libation shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation [shall be brought] into the temple: even unto the consummation of the time shall the desolation be complete.4673 Now three years and six months constitute the half-week.
    5. From all these passages are revealed to us, not merely the particulars of the apostasy, and [the doings] of him who concentrates in himself every satanic error, but also, that there is one and the same God the Father, who was declared by the prophets, but made manifest by Christ. For if what Daniel prophesied concerning the end has been confirmed by the Lord, when He said, When ye shall see the abomination of desolation, which has been spoken of by Daniel the prophet4674 (and the angel Gabriel gave the interpretation of the visions to Daniel, and he is the archangel of the Creator (Demiurgi), who also proclaimed to Mary the visible coming and the incarnation of
    Christ), then one and the same God is most manifestly pointed out, who sent the prophets, and made promise4675 of the Son, and called us into His knowledge.


    http://www.opposingviews.com/article...t-r-1249864325

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    2. It is most suspect to use Luke 8:5 to argue that OURANOS (heaven) in Luke 10:18 should be associated with the Hebrew BAMAH (high places). Just because OURANOS in Luke 8:5 can refer to the normal part of the world where birds fly does not mean that the same applies to Luke 10:18.

    Other texts describe Satan as living or visiting the Heaven where God lives (e.g., Job 1:6). Revelation 12:9 tells us that Satan is thrown down from Heaven. The latter text, in particular, would be much more thematically related to what is happening in Luke 10:18 than what is described in Luke 8:5 or in Isaiah 14:14, which the narrator admits has to be given a Christian interpretation to even be speaking of Satan.

    PPSimmons also overlooks the fact that Jesus may have been in Heaven when he beheld Satan fall from it. Why assume that Jesus is on earth when he beheld this event (which Jesus places in the past)? Even by PPSimmons' Christian theology, one would presume that Jesus was in Heaven at the time of Isaiah 14, which PPSimmons says is speaking of Satan.

    3. To achieve the heights (BAMAH) reading of Luke 10:18, PPSimmons simply uses an undocumented consensus argument that can be summarized as: Most scholars think that birds in Luke 8:5 are demonic, and so we should see the area where birds fly as the domain of the demonic. But, the narrator provides no evidence that most biblical scholars have a demonic interpretation of birds in Luke 8:5, and certainly most academic biblical scholars do not. In any case, consensus arguments are not admissible unless the narrator can explain why the consensus is correct.

    4. The phrase birds of heaven/birds of the air is a very well-known phrase in Hebrew that is first encountered in Genesis 1:26, where the Hebrew has OPH HA-SHAMAYIM. One can find the same phrase in Genesis 1:30, 2:19, 6:7, 7:3, and in 1 Kings 14:11. Thus, the fact that some English translations have birds of the air does not mean that the original Hebrew substituted some other word (e.g., BAMAH) for SHAMAYIM. We usually DO FIND the word SHAMAYIM when speaking of "birds of the air."

    5. To the best of my knowledge, one NEVER finds OPH HA-BAMAH when speaking of "birds of the air" in the Hebrew Bible.

    6. With few exceptions (e.g., Isaiah 14:14), the Hebrew BAMAH refers not to something in mid-air (where birds fly) but to high places that are part of the solid earth. That is to say, hills or altars built on hills rather than in mid-air. These places can be built (e.g., 1 Kings 14:23) and can be destroyed (2 Kings 23:8).

    7. Contrary to the YouTube narrators statement that a Hebrew Rabbi today would translate the words of Luke 10:18 with BAMAH, the modern Hebrew translation of the New Testament published by the Society for Distributing the Holy Scriptures to the Jews translates like lightning from the heaven close to what I have noted: KA-BARAQ MIN-HA-SHAMAYIM. In other words, if you follow a more correct Hebrew translation THERE IS NO BARACK + BAMAH in Luke 10:18.

    8. Of course, the YouTube narrator was unable to find Hussein, the presidents middle name, in the text, which at least would be consistent with the presidents full name. PPSimmons cannot easily transform BAMAH into O-BAMAH without further violence to the Hebrew.

    9. The narrator does not explain why we should see the words in Luke 10:18 as of any more significance for a link with Barack Obama than any other text we can choose. In overwhelming number, the word root BARAK (bless) and its variants, are positive, and so why not say that those instances prophesy a good God-given outcome for Barack Obama?

    10. We can follow similar rationales to show that "PPSimmons, in fact, was prophesied in Acts 8:9. There you will find the a corrupt magician named Simon, which can be related to the name Simmons.

    But note also that the letter of his initials has an equivalent in the Greek letter, PI, and that letter is repeated exactly TWICE in the Greek word (PROUPERCHEN/"he previously [practiced magic]) that follows SIMON. That is a clue (once magically reversed and "properly understood") that, one day, PPSimmons, a false magician of YouTube interpretations, would put forth absurd arguments. Try out your own combination with any good concordance.

    In sum, this is another of those very pathetic attempts at pseudo-scholarship. By using similar methods we can prove that president Obama is Gods great blessing for the world.




    Result of search for "ouranos":
    3772. ouranos oo-ran-os' perhaps from the same as 3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity):--air, heaven(-ly), sky.
    3735 is ὄρος, mountain.

    http://bible.cc/luke/10-18.htm
    http://biblos.com/luke/10-18.htm

    εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς ἐθεώρουν τὸν σατανᾶν ὡς ἀστραπὴν ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ πεσόντα.
    He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
    But the greek οὐρανός means:

    1) sky, heaven, dome of the sky, air (in the sense of abode of the gods)
    2) by analogy: pavilion, tent of the King

    Thus it is not unheard that it might mean a construction. The whole "birds in the air" thing, not being a reference to the passage in question, but merely a comparison.
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    So Obama is an anti-christ now? Wow, I love him even more!


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    Funny thread, this is better than what John Hagee can come up with. I just hope you aren't being serious =)


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    Yeah Obama is the man, ye Know I think he is both Jesus returned to us and the anti-christ, hes just such a great guy that he couldn't posibly be anything else.





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    Funny thread, this is better than what John Hagee can come up with. I just hope you aren't being serious =)
    The smilie.

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    http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/...ing/id/4797581

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    Antichrist - Origin and meaning
    The English word Antichrist is taken from the Greek αντίχριστος antkhristos (modern Greek pronunciation andichristos), which literally means "instead of Christ".


    Antichrist - The New Testament
    Contrary to a popular misconception and to the surprise of many Christians and non-Christians, the actual words "Antichrist" or "Antichrists" do not appear in the entire text of the Book of Revelation (e.g. in relation to the Tribulation, Beast, Dragon, Whore of Babylon, False Prophet, etc.), the Book of Daniel (e.g. in relation to the Abomination of Desolation or the Beasts/Empires) or Paul's passages on the "Man of Sin" in 2 Thessalonians 2. The words "Antichrist" or "Antichrists" are never used by Christ during his ministry, including his discussion about the signs of the "End of the Age" in Matthew 24. While the word "Antichrist" does not appear in these sources, the concept has been recognized in that "scripture warns against a false Christ image that becomes a living icon, and an object of worship (Revelation 13:14-15). Satan's plan is to be worshiped as God and Savior (Isaiah 14:12-14; II Thessalonians 2:3-4; II Corinthians 11:14)" (excerpt from Norbert H. Kox's artist's statement at http://nhkox.homestead.com/)

    The words "Antichrist" and "Antichrists" appear only five times in the Bible - in two of the Apostle John's three letters in the New Testament, 1 John and 2 John:

    Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22, ESV) Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. (1 John 2:18, ESV) and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. (1 John 4:3, ESV) Many deceivers have gone out into the world; they do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist (2 John 1:7, ESV.)
    In these contexts, "Antichrist" seems to describe any false teacher, false prophet or corrupter of the Christian faith, but sometimes also seems to indicate a specific person or single spirit of deception that motivates false teaching and whose presence is a sign of the end times. However, in popular understanding, many Christians identify this particular Antichrist with the "man of sin" or "son of perdition" mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2, and with several figures in the Book of Revelation including the Dragon, the Beast, the False Prophet, and the Whore of Babylon. The Antichrist is variously understood to be a group or organization, such as a consummately evil system of government or a false religion, or more commonly as an individual, such as an evil government leader, a religious leader who sets up false worship in place of the worship of Christ, the incarnation of Satan, a son of Satan, or a human being under the dominion of Satan.

    The understanding of one person being 'the' Antichrist appears to be combined in 1 John with the idea of a class of persons. There John speaks of "many antichrists" who typify the "spirit of the antichrist" that was both present in the first century ("is in the world already" 1 John 4:3) and continues to exist down to this day. As John wrote, such an antichrist (or opponent of Christ) is anyone who "denies that Jesus is the Christ;" "denies the Father and the Son;" "does not confess Jesus;" and does "not confess the coming of Jesus."

    Matthew 24 warns of "false Christs" in several places, and of deceivers who would appear claiming falsely to be the returned Christ. (Matt. 24:5, 24)

    In the "small apocalypse" of Saint Paul, in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, a "man of sin", "the son of perdition" is expected to set himself up in the temple of God, on the false pretense that he is God himself. This portrait of the Antichrist is reminiscent of the acts of Antiochus Epiphanes, who around 170 BC commanded Jews to sacrifice pigs on the altar, four times a year on the Shabbat, in tribute to him as the supreme god of the Seleucids. Paul appears to be warning his readers, by alluding to events in the past, to anticipate similar trouble in the future. Some Christians believe that the events warned of in this passage took place soon after Paul warned of them, but many others believe that the Antichrist has yet to appear.

    Related ideas and references appear in many other places in the Bible and various apocrypha, and a more complete portrait of the Antichrist has been built up gradually by Christian theologians and folk-religionists.


    Antichrist - Later texts and apocrypha
    One such apocryphal text is the apocalyptic pseudo-prophecy falsely attributed to the Tiburtine Sibyl. It purports to prophesy (although written after the fact—see vaticinium ex eventu) the arrival of the Christian emperor, Constantine, beginning:

    Then will arise a king of the Greeks whose name is Constans. He will be king of the Romans and the Greeks. He will be tall of stature, of handsome appearance with shining face, and well put together in all parts of his body...
    Millenialists and anti-Semites have relished the document's suggestion that the Antichrist will be a Jew:

    At that time the Prince of Iniquity who will be called Antichrist will arise from the tribe of Dan.


    http://wiki.name.com/en/Hussein

    Hussein is an Arabic name that means "good-looking." It can be traced back to the Arabic hasuna, meaning "to be good," or "to be beautiful." One of the first forms of the name was Hasan, who in Islamic tradition was the grandson of the Prophet Muhammed.[1] Hussein, or Husayn, was originally used as a familiar form of the name,[1] much like calling Robert "Bobby."

    As a surname, Hussein derives from the given name,[1] possibly as a shorted form of a patronymic surname such as bin Hussein or al-Hussein, meaning "son of Hussein."[1]


    The latin name Constans is generally translated as constant, but the word as present participle of consto also has the meaning Agreeing one or someone who is agreed upon or who is evident (in the middle of others).


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Dan

    According to the Hebrew Bible, the Tribe of Dan, also sometimes spelled as "Dann", (Hebrew: דָּן, Modern Dan Tiberian Dān ; "Judge") was one of the twelve Tribes of Israel.


    Look at the marvelous serpent there.

    http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/...-jide-uwechia/

    Even before the advent of Abraham, it appears that a body polity known as the tribe of Dan existed in Kushitic Africa for the book of Genesis narrates in Chapter 14 verse 14 that Abraham pursued some Caananite army until he arrived at a place known as Dan. Prof Ben Johanan has aruged that the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia are part of the ancestral tribe of Dan. See Ben Johanan, “We the Black Jews.”
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    The Black Jews Of Africa (Part 1) – Jide Uwechia
    The Black Jews Of Africa (Part 1) -

    Introducing the Hebrew Tribes of Africa

    By

    Jide Uwechia

    Proto-Hebrew tribes and historical Jewish communities have existed in Africa over thousands of years. This series of essays on Africa`s Black Jewish communities has been written to highlight a part of Africa`s heritage that is rarely if ever acknowledged by the stage managed account of history promoted by the mafia-like western educational establishemnts which control the institutions of learning and research.


    That the roots of the Hebrews lie in Africa is attested to by this famous saying in Numbers Chapter 22 verse 5 (often distorted beyond recognition) to wit: “There is a people comeout from Egypt: behold they cover the face of the earth…” Another biblical verse goes: “When Israel was a child, then I loved him and called him out of Egypt”. Hosea Chapter 11 verse 1.

    Even before the advent of Abraham, it appears that a body polity known as the tribe of Dan existed in Kushitic Africa for the book of Genesis narrates in Chapter 14 verse 14 that Abraham pursued some Caananite army until he arrived at a place known as Dan. Prof Ben Johanan has aruged that the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia are part of the ancestral tribe of Dan. See Ben Johanan, “We the Black Jews.”

    During the sojourn of Abraham (the pilgrim from Chaldees) to Kushitic North Africa, the book of Genesis Chapter 13 verse 1 suggested that Abram left Egypt and headed south (which geographically speaking points into Africa) towards the place of “his original tent” (a term which indicates original home land). This verse appears to propose that Chaldeans were originally from the land of Africa, and Abram seemed to have made somesort of pilgrimage into the land of his origin.

    This should not be too confusing if one recalls that the first King of Mesopotamia was Nimrod the great, acknowledged in the bible and the Quoran as a black man from Africa. Nimrod famously laid the foundations ofone of the earliest civilizations of man known as Sumeria or Shinar in the bible. Nimrod’s black African kingdom later morphed into the kingdom of the Chaldees, from where Abraham is said to have commenced his many journeys. See Genesis Chapter 10 verse 8 – 11.

    Thus the first geographical location where one encounters the tribe of the Israelites as a nation or a nationalistic expression was in Egypt, Africa. The traditions of the ancient Israelites who supposedly left Egypt for the land of Caanan were a codified strain of the ancient traditions of the Egyptians who had maintained the ways of their first ancestors who lived inside Africa, around the head waters of River Nile. Moses was reputedly very learned in Kemitic science, arts and traditions as noted in Acts Chapter 7 verse 22.

    Chapter 19 of the book of Exodus makes it abundantly clear that the God YHVW the god of the Hebrews was originally an African based diety whose special abode was on top of an African mountain known as Mountain Sinai in North East of Africa.

    Thus this ancient Israelite presence in Egypt and the ancient Kingdom of Kush suggests that this African tribe rose from the depths of Africa and has maintained an unbroken continuity in Africa since the beginning of living memory.
    The Exodus

    Even after the so called exodus from Egypt and their settlement in the land of Israel, the Israelite tribes retained certain numerous thriving communities throughout Africa including the ones mentioned in the varous books of the bible such as Exodus, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, etc.

    Moses’s father in law Jethro the Midianite whom traditions regard as an Ethiopian appears as the real founder intellectual and spiritual founder of the Israelites. He thought Moses and inspired him to fight for the freedom of his people. He introduced him to his God and gave him the basic laws which governed the lives of the Israelites and formed the basis of all their later laws and traditions. See Exodus Chapter 3 and Exodus Chapter 18 verse 23.

    The Midianites, a prototypic Israelite tribe of Ethiopia remained behind in Africa during the so-called migrations to Caanan. See Exodus Chapter 18. The original Danites of the South who introduced Abram to the tenets of Hebrewism remained in Africa, they did not migrate to Caanan.

    As well, many Israelites refused to leave Egypt with Moses whereas many others returned back to their African food basket as they quickly tired of the rigours of frontier life on the edges of the Sinai desert. There were also those who had ideological disagreements with Moses, some of who were among the many implicated in the carving of the golden calf (i.e. Horus). Those ones equally did not proceed with Moses to the so-called promised land because they were not willing to modify their ancient African ways and norms to match the version Moses was supposedly seeking to propagate.
    Exile and Diapora

    By the 10th and the 9th centuries B.C.E., Hebrew communities had thrived for many centuries and was widespread in Africa. It was a veritable network of traders and craftsmen.

    Various potentates sought to use this network to further their interest. Kings David and Solomon purportedly sought to utilize this network of different communities to further the trading interests of the Israelite state. Often, in joint venture with the Caananites (i.e. Phoenicians) trade contacts were opened or consolidated in Africa through the mediation of some of those old African Hebrew communities. In addition to this older segment, many relatively recent Israelite immigrants settled in communities found throughout Egypt, Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia, Eriteria, Kenya, Tanzania, Mocambique and Southern Africa.

    These settlements were intermittenly augmented with new influx of migrant refugees from the so-called holy land driven by insecurity, famine and regional conflicts. Following the conquest of Israel in the 8th century B.C.E. by the Assyrians, and the 6th century destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians, even more Jewish refugees fled into their older communities in Africa. At this time, black Kingdoms in and around Africa were overflowing with migrant Jews. Kingdoms like Yemen, Ethiopia, and the North African Punic Kingdoms up to Mauritania had substantial Jewish settlement.

    If one were to pause and ask at this point: What ethnicity were those refugee Jews and why flee to Africa of all places? The response to these queries immediately underline the deep roots of Africa relative to the Hebrew tribes. Those fleeing Jews of the 8th and the 6th century B.C.E. were clearly depicted as Black African men and women with tight curly hair (the hair type of a typical west African) in the Assyrian and Babylonian bas-reliefs commemorating the respective conquests. For example, a sculptured wall relief excavated at ancient Nineveh illustrates the fall of Lachish by the army of king Sennacherib of Assyria. The Hebrews depicted therein were all black men. See image: http://www.bible-history.com/archaeo...s-lachish.html.

    Salman Rushdie citing Indian history books claims in a book €œLast Sigh of Moor€ published in 1995, that three waves of Jewish refugees has landed in India in the past. The first Jewish refugees, that had settled in India, arrived after Nabuchadonezer, king of Babylon conquered their land in the 6th century BC and expelled some and enslaved the others. They were€dark skinned people, probably of the AFROCOIDAL RACE.

    It then becomes clear why segments of that population would seek refugee in Africa…because that was the home land…the motherland…the baseline. It was only within the protective embrace of the African motherland that the harried Jew could be safe from the Babylonian depredations. As an aside, the significance of this epoch must be recognized. This was the first group of Black people in history ever taken and sold into chattel slavery outside their territory.


    http://www.factmonster.com/spot/israel1.html

    Ethiopia: Some 65,000 Ethiopian Jews from different groups have moved to Israel since 1974. Israel's chief rabbis believe they are descended from the lost tribe of Dan. Others say they are descended from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Many Ethiopians were so isolated they thought all Jews were black. They did not know of the standardization of Jewish law, the Talmud, or Hanukkah.
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    I am afraid you're looking in the wrong direction, Ummon.The real antichrist is here
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    Don't ruin the thread, it's fun but serious.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

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    A 1999 study by Lucotte and Smets studied the DNA of 38 unrelated Beta Israel males living in Israel and 104 Ethiopians living in regions located north of Addis Ababa and concluded that "the distinctiveness of the Y-chromosome haplotype distribution of Beta Israel Jews from conventional Jewish populations and their relatively greater similarity in haplotype profile to non-Jewish Ethiopians are consistent with the view that the Beta Israel people descended from ancient inhabitants of Ethiopia who converted to Judaism."[26][27] This study confirmed the findings of a 1991 study by Zoossmann-Disken et al..[28]. A 2000 study by Hammer et al. of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes of Jewish and non-Jewish groups suggested that "paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population," with the exception of the Beta Israel, who were "affiliated more closely with non-Jewish Ethiopians and other North Africans."[29]

    A 2001 study by the Department of Biological Sciences at Stanford University found a possible genetic similarity between 11 Ethiopian Jews and 4 Yemenite Jews who took part in the testing. The differentiation statistic and genetic distances for the 11 Ethiopian Jews and 4 Yemenite Jews tested were quite low, among the smallest of comparisons involving either of these populations. The 4 Yemenite Jews from this study may be descendants of reverse migrants of African origin who crossed Ethiopia to Yemen. The study result suggests gene flow between Ethiopia and Yemen as a possible explanation for the closeness. The study also suggests that the gene flow between Ethiopian and Yemenite Jewish populations may not have been direct, but instead could have been between Jewish and non-Jewish populations of both regions.[30]

    A 2002 study of Mitochondrial DNA (which is passed through only maternal lineage to both men and women) by Thomas et al. showed that the most common mtDNA type found among the Ethiopian Jewish sample was present only in Somalia. This further supported the view that most Ethiopian Jews were of local or Ethiopian origin.[31]
    They arrived up to Zimbabwe:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...emba_Jews.html
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    Don't ruin the thread, it's fun but serious.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel



    They arrived up to Zimbabwe:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...emba_Jews.html
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    Don't worry, for various reasons there are few chances.
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    A Black (colored, for those who say he's white too) American being the Anti-Christ?

    Classic.

    Seriously, who could of saw this coming? lol

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    Actually, the main argument here is about texts. If texts said the anti-christ must be purple, I would discuss its being purple.

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    But doesnt the whole anti-christ belief pretty much guarantee that if Jesus did come back we'd think he was the anti-christ and kill him again?

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    Not really: the anti-christ as a cultural construction based on patristic comment of the Apocalypse, is not someone who shares the characteristics of Jesus, but someone who imitates and mocks Jesus.

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