Settlement Research

[Sutman]

Since romy, our fellow dots fan has decided to help the dots team with custom cities, i find it only fair to help him out with any historical city maps and data that we may find. This is a map of constantinople dating to 1422 by the Florentine cartographer cristoforo buendolmonte, it's not exactly the starting period but most public buildings in constantinople did not change and it at least gives us a clear picture of the extent of constantinople, and in context with pictures of the ruins left of the ancient city can give a more complete picture

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Edit by Hross
I'd like to make an official request, since your research and work here overlaps with our work for the campaign map.
Currently Resurrection (Head Mapper) has decided that all cities that were placed on river banks such as London and Paris will have a secondary control point or PSF on the other side of the bank.

What we need to know is what side of the bank the PSF should be, and whether it should be a castle, town, city or village.

As always please refer to the IMG
http://dots.axesgame.com/map/

*NB that Tyre is being swapped for Homs

[Meister Röhrich]

Here you go:

London

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Constantinople

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Cordoba

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Cologne

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Nuremburg

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Paris

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Jerusalem

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Cairo

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Rome

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[Syme]

Valencia (Balansiya):

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[romy]

thanks guys , this is really helping me out.

But don't be surprised if my work isn't that good and slow , I'm a student and I've a life behind as anyone out here.
I hope getting incredible skills in creating settlements.

Romy#11

[Meister Röhrich]

Well I'm just glad that finally somebody cares about those cloned settlements because I'm too lazy for that! If you need more research just feel free to ask.

[Jaketh]

having a triple walled Constantinople to defend would be amazing

[Meister Röhrich]

having a triple walled Constantinople to defend would be amazing

Ooooh yeaaaah!

But even if it was possible to build them in-game it would be quite unfair because the attacker would need at least several armies to take them and had no choice but attacking from the land-site, not sea-site like the crusaders in 1204.

[RottenTree]

Ooooh yeaaaah!

But even if it was possible to build them in-game it would be quite unfair because the attacker would need at least several armies to take them and had no choice but attacking from the land-site, not sea-site like the crusaders in 1204.

I think it would be nice if the smaller part was represented by a PSF and the bigger part was the city and then you could do what the crusaders did

[jermagon]

Ooooh yeaaaah!

But even if it was possible to build them in-game it would be quite unfair because the attacker would need at least several armies to take them and had no choice but attacking from the land-site, not sea-site like the crusaders in 1204.

and that's exactly what we want...!!
historically Constaninople was the hardest city in the world to conquer.. the Sassanid besieged it and failed in the 7th century, and the Arabs were forced to lift the siege twice.

so giving byzantium her formidable defenses will be very challenging for both the CPU player and the human player.

[TheLoneBunghole]

Ooooh yeaaaah!

But even if it was possible to build them in-game it would be quite unfair because the attacker would need at least several armies to take them and had no choice but attacking from the land-site, not sea-site like the crusaders in 1204.

yeah whats the problem? then the enemy needs to build several armies before attacking... thats why they had a triple wall lol

[spanish_emperor]

Well, not sure how many you got planned but here are a few anduse the ones you need:

Really good map of medieval Granada. The Green is what remains and the Pink is what used to be around

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Barcelona near the end of middle ages. obviously it wasn't as big and it gives you an idea of the beginning walls

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[Monthy]

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Krakov - Polish capital city in 1257

Drogi i Ulice - Roads
Młyny - Mills
Tereny zamieszkałe - Inhabited areas
Wody - Rivers, Lakes
Fortyfikacje i mury - Fortifications and walls
Granice miasta - Extended city borders

Wawel - Castle

Source:
http://www.wawel.net/plany.htm

[retep219]

When I saw Romy's three cities, I decided to try out the editor by myself. I'll admit that the following city, Tripoli, is certainly not excellent, and it is not original at all, but...it is my first time? Tripoli isn't complete yet -- I still need to add a river to the city. That's something I really need help with, though, so if anyone could post directions, they would be appreciated.

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This post probably shouldn't be in this thread, but I didn't want to make another thread just for this experiment...

Feedback is appreciated.

[Hengest]

This is good, maybe you two should team up?

[Monthy]

Hi folks

I have one silly question:

What program do you use?

[Meister Röhrich]

Battle map editor: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277519

@ romy and retep: Is anyone of you creating Jerusalem right now? Otherwise I would do that.

[romy]

retep , Tripoli looks nice , really.

I'm glad that some people are following me and 'helping' me!

[Meister Röhrich]

I could help better, if I'd know how to create rivers, I guess you know?

[romy]

message from Flogi :
"Hey.
Making water at those maps is indeed quite tricky.
It seems that the editor is only able to show ground water, which means you'll have to lower the terrain until you reach it.
The Problem is on a high terrain it looks really if you have to lower it ~200 meters.
The key so solve this problem is at the beginning, when you choose where exactly you want your map created.
If you have a map with much water or if you want to include a river you'll need to either use a point at the map which is near a river or a point where the terrain is very very low e.g. ~50 m.
I hope i could help you.
If you need more help, feel free to ask.

flogi "

[Meister Röhrich]

Hahaa and I thought I would have to download numerous tools and learn how to use them Now that's simple, thanks mate!