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  1. September 12, 2009, 07:17 PM #1
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    Default Gladio, Aldo Moro, Right Wing "Networking"

    I tend to ask a lot of questions here at TWC since, as many of us know, the TWC community draws from literally every side of the globe.

    So to my Belgian, Italian, French, German, Austrian and Spanish friends: What's your take on Gladio?

    I can tell you that most (99.9%) of Americans have no idea who James Jesus Angleton was or that such intelligence and security operations were ongoing throughout the past 50 years. Instead, we watch American Gladiators.

    I know the Moro rumors are still up in the air for many people, but my own research has me convinced that Gladio was involved.

    Also, if any Brits have any comments on the alleged right-wing coup that was supposed to supplant Harold Wilson in the 60's and again in the 70's, how does that tie in to projects or networks like Gladio?

    And if you don't know what Gladio is, you can always resort to Wikipedia or check here for a great 2 hour documentary from the BBC: http://www.archive.org/details/operationgladio.

    Hoping for some good discussion.
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  2. September 12, 2009, 07:25 PM #2
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    well you should also ask your Turkish friends....because we are still dealing with that NATO thing. Counter guerillas-local intelligence-cia....bad stuff. Really bad stuff.

    you see no one cares much about this issue despite the fact that these underground operations have changed the the fate of many countries....and some are still doing it.
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  3. September 12, 2009, 07:54 PM #3
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    Really? I had no idea NATO ran those kind of ops in Turkey, or at least I've never looked into it. I'd like to write a book on conservative counter-revolutions one day, which is why I mentioned Moro, Franco, then you have the de Gaulle plot, of course JFK, RFK, and MLK. Anything in particular I should look into in re: to Turkey?
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    (IMPORTANT NOTE: WIKI IS NOT THE BEST SOURCE FOR THIS AND CAN BE PRETTY BIASED IN THESE CASES. This is just to give the general idea)


    well we've got the Ergenekon case that is being lately going on
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(organization)

    Ergenekon's modus operandi has been compared to Operation Gladio's Turkish branch, the Counter-Guerrilla. It has been said that the people who constitute the "deep state" are members of, or make use of, this covert organization, which was established at the beginning of the Cold War to contain communism.[19][20][21] Furthermore, Ergenekon is allegedly a derivative of the Counter-Guerrilla.


    The thing is, the ergenekon issue come to the news just recently....earlier nobody knew the background but talked of some "deep state"
    And as the case progresses more more and things come about about the last 50 years of Turkey. Pro American military coups mostly which destroyed the left in Turkey.
    Many political murders...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Tu..._d%27%C3%A9tat

    the most important
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Tu..._d%27%C3%A9tat

    and many events regarding them are listed in this
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Guerrilla

    even more info
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state


    most of the agents used were ultra-nationalists...sick people.
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    This is clearly not current and does not seem to involve a sinle named person so it appears to be off topic for the Mudpit. I think this might work better in VV as it seems to have historic roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Prince View Post
    This is clearly not current and does not seem to involve a sinle named person so it appears to be off topic for the Mudpit. I think this might work better in VV as it seems to have historic roots.

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    it is actually still going on....at least where I live. And Italy toohandled it not so long ago.

    oh well, whatever
    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
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