English Yeomen longowmen have lower range than Venetian archers.

**j0hn185** · September 12, 2009, 02:33 PM

How's this possible? I was doing a bridge battle and suddenly out of nowhere I was getting showered by 2 venetian archer units. And my yeomen couldn't reach them. I might be wrong, maybe it's supposed to be like that, but shouldn't the longbow reach them easily?

**Goofy** · September 12, 2009, 02:37 PM

Their range is exactly the same; 200 meters for both of them.
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**Lord de Lyonesse** · September 12, 2009, 02:54 PM

Hmm seems a bit unfair, we had way beter archers then the silly venetians =]

**Goofy** · September 12, 2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Emperor Richard

Hmm seems a bit unfair, we had way beter archers then the silly venetians =]

Surely, but it makes the game more balanced I think.

**Black_ice_Spain** · September 12, 2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Emperor Richard

Hmm seems a bit unfair, we had way beter archers then the silly venetians =]

archers were pretty useless in those times, so you shoud be congratulated than in m2tw they are so "good"

**ferretboy** · September 12, 2009, 03:04 PM

You could always mod there range

**Goofy** · September 12, 2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by ferretboy

You could always mod there range

Of course, and (the best thing) it's very easy.

Originally Posted by Black_ice_Spain

archers were pretty useless in those times

Authenticate that.

**j0hn185** · September 12, 2009, 03:30 PM

Mod? ok, I'll try it out. Hopefully it won't be as last time when I accidentally buffed peasants instead of knights. You can imagine how that turned out. But where can I find the file to edit them?

**meese** · September 12, 2009, 06:46 PM

For me, it's under C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data then the file export_descr_unit. The top of the text file has all the information on how to change it. Search is your friend here

Dont' want to scroll it all to find your unit.

**meese** · September 12, 2009, 11:47 PM

Except harder to make?

**Point Blank** · September 13, 2009, 01:13 AM

Yes and not good in rain etc due to the glue used in its construction

**welwelwel** · September 13, 2009, 04:00 PM

I thought that the longbow was a comosite bow to, as it was composed of two different sorts of wood. I don't know which ones, but I do know that one past was soft so that the bo wouldn't break due to too mutch stress and a hard part for the range and strenght of the arrow

**Caesar Clivus** · September 13, 2009, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by welwelwel

I thought that the longbow was a comosite bow to, as it was composed of two different sorts of wood. I don't know which ones, but I do know that one past was soft so that the bo wouldn't break due to too mutch stress and a hard part for the range and strenght of the arrow

It was made of the hardwood and the sapwood BUT it was still the same piece of wood (i.e. it included both the hard and the sap wood in the one piece). It wasn't glued together like true composite bows.

**Abyrvalg** · September 14, 2009, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by welwelwel

I thought that the longbow was a comosite bow to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_bow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow
Know the difference.

**bɑne** · September 14, 2009, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Abyrvalg

Know the difference.

While the english longbow is classed as a self bow modern longbows are made by laminating different wood types which easily explains his misconception. As already stated the glues in that time simply were not up to the job and climate else the longbow tradition might have not developed as it has.

**Point Blank** · September 12, 2009, 11:32 PM

Venetian archers have a composite bow. This may come as a shock, but the composite bow was superior to the longbow in almost every way, including energy generated per pound of draw, velocity and range.