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    Default "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    A piece in Metro Santa Cruz begins with this interesting quote:

    “We are the modern equivalent of the ancient city-states of Athens and Sparta. California has the ideas of Athens and the power of Sparta.”
    –Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger


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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Thebes applies too, since they have San Francisco.

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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Let him eat cake, I say. The fact that this -otherwise not idiot- man says anything that could impress (positively or not) just for the sake of it means we should not take him seriously.
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Is modern California, both Athens and Sparta? even economically talking

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    No one is Athens and Sparta except Athens and Sparta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    No one is Athens and Sparta except Athens and Sparta.
    I support this, as the only sensible post in the thread.
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    No one is Athens and Sparta except Athens and Sparta.
    But is Athens Athens, and Sparta Sparta?


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    Heh that reminds me of those whacky quips from movies, like: "I made University in Paris, Idaho" and the likes .
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    They might be Athens and Sparta, but New York is Rome.

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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    They might be Athens and Sparta, but New York is Rome.
    it wasn't built in a day and all roads seemingly lead to it so... I say it is quintessentially rome.

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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    I guess people in Florida don't really live like spartans. I mean, luxury, hot chicks, ocean.
    If that's Sparta count me in
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Is Philadelphia Philadelphia??

    Arnold is a moron.
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    And the mexican border is great wall of america

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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Washington DC is Rome. The architecture of our government buildings is modeled after Roman architecture. New York is Roman Carthage.
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Washington DC is Rome. The architecture of our government buildings is modeled after Roman architecture. New York is Roman Carthage.
    We modelled Budapest after Atlantis
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    This reminds me of a pet peeve I have: naming sports teams "Spartans," "Trojans," or any other city-themed name. You are NOT a Spartan unless you are from Sparta.
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    We modelled Budapest after Atlantis
    A ruined city under the Ocean ?

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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Wait to see it after Danube floods.
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    Default Re: "We Are Sparta! And Athens!" by Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Quote Originally Posted by Nex Addo View Post
    He used to be huge, wait till you are 70 years old, then see what you look like.
    well he looks like that because of the steroids he used....he could be looking much better.
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