Will we be allowed to recruit non-factional hoplites in cities we take?

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · September 10, 2009, 07:13 PM

For instance, if I'm playing as the Macedonians, and I sail over to Croton and take it, will I be able to produce Crotonian hoplites?

**Spartan198** · September 11, 2009, 01:23 PM

I've been wondering this myself. I like to garrison cities with indigenous troops anytime I can.

**Eastern Roman** · September 11, 2009, 05:25 PM

I think there are unique units in areas and cities which can be mutually recruit by all factions.

**Phalanx300** · September 11, 2009, 05:35 PM

I thought that something like that was going to be implemented.

**ROFL Copter** · September 12, 2009, 09:09 PM

I think the old team had this planned.

**jnabb22** · September 13, 2009, 12:10 PM

that would be awesome. but i think only if Sparta has Sparta, that u should get Spartans. like if athens captured it they couldn't get them.

**The Thespian** · September 13, 2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by jnabb22

that would be awesome. but i think only if Sparta has Sparta, that u should get Spartans. like if athens captured it they couldn't get them.

Yeh i agreee because if you alowed people to rercruit Spartans then they would just revolt and become a serious pain in the back side to your plans of domination

**Phalanx300** · September 13, 2009, 02:26 PM

Well yes thats true, though a general allied-Hoplite unit will ruin the fact that dozens of Hoplite units have been made.

The original idea of the original creators was: If you capture a city with unique Hoplites after a while owning the city they will become available. You could then basicly see them as Tegeans, but yeah, generally wars weren't about getting into alliances or capturing all of the enemies territories.

**Jarlaxe** · September 14, 2009, 12:32 AM

well here it is how it is:
every faction will have 5-6 units of it own no matter which city it takes.
from there and after every city on the map has its unit,for example
if you have sparta and take the theban city orchomenos,you will be able to recruit
orchomenious hoplitai.i'm not exactly sure which units are going to be only for their own faction but
i think ,none is,if i remeber well every unit is recruitable from anyone that controls it's city.

**Timoleon of Korinthos** · September 14, 2009, 04:02 PM

Maybe you should make the elite units of each faction non recruitable for anyone else. It would be more realistic.
Also, I would like to ask a question, will you be able to raise your factional units in all of your cities or just the ones you start with?

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · September 14, 2009, 04:51 PM

well here it is how it is:
every faction will have 5-6 units of it own no matter which city it takes.
from there and after every city on the map has its unit,for example
if you have sparta and take the theban city orchomenos,you will be able to recruit
orchomenious hoplitai.i'm not exactly sure which units are going to be only for their own faction but
i think ,none is,if i remeber well every unit is recruitable from anyone that controls it's city.

Awesome, that's exactly what I like to hear. I want to conquer Hellas with a heterogeneous force!

**Spartan198** · September 15, 2009, 07:30 AM

Maybe it would be possible, through the use of buildings, to choose between turning a conquered city into an "allied city" (recruit Corinthian units in Corinth, Athenian units in Athens, etc.), a "slave city" (recruit levy and missile troops only), or a "subject city" (recruit factional units only)? It would add a certain level of role-playing as well as realism, as you could choose between mimicking historical "alliances" or forming your own made up of whatever city states you choose.

**AnthoniusII** · September 15, 2009, 09:37 AM

After the fall of a city atleast two units of it's roster must be reqruitable...
1st: A levy unit (accontistae,sphendonitae,light cavalry etc)...
2nd: A hoplite unit (not ellite though)...
The reason behind this proposal is:
In ancient world there were no real exterminations of the coquered cities...
Pure people still joined the army no matter who the boss was...
Citizens (hoplites) joined the new rullers as symachoi (allie auxilias)...

Cities still existed in a type of confedaration and not as "native" people of the new rullers!
So lets asume that Nacedonians take control of a city out side their domain:
The levy unit of that city will replace the macedonian one and the city's regular holites the macedonian equals!
A city's popullation did not just disapeared instandlly!

**Jarlaxe** · September 15, 2009, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by AnthoniusII

After the fall of a city atleast two units of it's roster must be reqruitable...
1st: A levy unit (accontistae,sphendonitae,light cavalry etc)...
2nd: A hoplite unit (not ellite though)...
The reason behind this proposal is:
In ancient world there were no real exterminations of the coquered cities...
Pure people still joined the army no matter who the boss was...
Citizens (hoplites) joined the new rullers as symachoi (allie auxilias)...

Cities still existed in a type of confedaration and not as "native" people of the new rullers!
So lets asume that Nacedonians take control of a city out side their domain:
The levy unit of that city will replace the macedonian one and the city's regular holites the macedonian equals!
A city's popullation did not just disapeared instandlly!