Should Quebec became independent from Canada?

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

Quebec speaks French, but not English also got different culture.
What you say?


I_Vote_Yes.

[Lord Tomyris]

Perhaps a timely question seeing as this Sunday will mark 250 years since the Battle of Quebec, when the French soldiers in Canada were soundly thrashed out of the city and British dominance of America was assured!

[Last Roman]

Perhaps a timely question seeing as this Sunday will mark 250 years since the Battle of Quebec, when the French soldiers in Canada were soundly thrashed out of the city and British dominance of Canada was assured!

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Anyhoo, I honestly don't care/know. What would Quebec gain from it?

[CiviC]

Perhaps a timely question seeing as this Sunday will mark 250 years since the Battle of Quebec, when the French soldiers in Canada were soundly thrashed out of the city and British dominance of America was assured!

Assured for only 20 years, lol. Then the French made their revenge helping Americans and teaching the arrogant British a lesson.

Anyway your argument is not helping Canadian unity, au contraire.

[Mikelus Trento]

Perhaps a timely question seeing as this Sunday will mark 250 years since the Battle of Quebec, when the French soldiers in Canada were soundly thrashed out of the city and British dominance of America was assured!

I don't think you can call something that lasted only but 30 years as dominance.

[S.L.I.G]

I don't think you can call something that lasted only but 30 years as dominance.

Well honestly, New France had like....100 thousand people or something pitiful, while the thirteen colonies had them outnumbered like 20:1. So British dominance was assured in North America quite a while before that.

Them Frenchies never stood a chance.

[justinius]

Well honestly, New France had like....100 thousand people or something pitiful, while the thirteen colonies had them outnumbered like 20:1. So British dominance was assured in North America quite a while before that.

Them Frenchies never stood a chance.

That's right.

[Stavroforos]

If the residents of Quebec vote that they want to leave Canada, then yes, they should become independent.

And considering Canada considers things like Kosovo its own nation, then I can see no logical reason why they would want to hold onto Quebec if the Quebecois voted against staying in Canada.

[Lord de Lyonesse]

If the residents of Quebec vote that they want to leave Canada, then yes, they should become independent.

Are you implying if people vote to be seperate from the nation they are part of they should.. that would cause anarchy.. even if all people wanted Quebec to be independant the result would be catastrophic.. anyway would never happen..

[ShADoW]

Quebec has always felt as if they are separate from Canada

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Ah, you know what I'm like. I'm not exactly partisan in my ideologies, on principle...three guesses what I voted?

[pwf224]

Voted yes because it is a plausible scenario that has waxed and waned in popularity over the years in Quebec and IIRC has been put up for debate/vote before, but only if the people of Quebec vote on it and decide they wish to leave Canada. I guess my vote for yes isn't, "yes they should", but "yes the could".

[Heathen Hammer]

No. They already had their chance and they voted against it.

[Draksen]

it's not exactly a fair vote either lol, french-speaking population of Quebec voted yes, and the english speaking (presumably moved in later) voted no overwhelmingly.

It's a totally new thing, they call it democracy

As someone said above, it's a possible scenario.
I hope the best for Quebec, and it's a delicate decision which concerns only the québécois if a new referendum is casted.
(they said "no" in the last one...)

Anyway, la francophonie is a strength, a real national pride out there (judging from Europe and as a francophone myself)
It's simply great.

[Stavroforos]

It's a totally new thing, they call it democracy

As someone said above, it's a possible scenario.
I hope the best for Quebec, and it's a delicate decision which concerns only the québécois if a new referendum is casted.
(they said "no" in the last one...)

Anyway, la francophonie is a strength, a real national pride out there (judging from Europe and as a francophone myself)
It's simply great.

Most Quebecois I know don't like or dislike the French, because many French consider the Quebecois to be rednecks.

[Draksen]

Most Quebecois I know don't like or dislike the French, because many French consider the Quebecois to be rednecks.

Not "many", only "some" french... well...
I know exactly what you mean, and there are that kind of tension between some idiotic frenchmen and some other as idiotic quebecois... such things happen when the cultures and way to live are separated, look at the USA and the UK for instance, a good parallele in my humble opinion.
In the case of France/Quebec, to make it short, you have some Parisians who dont give a about Quebec and consider them as rednecks (as you said) and the quebecois' reaction is natural, they hate these particular arrogant frenchmen. But it's minority.
Anyway, in most cases France and Québéc has very tight relations, special conventions allowing french to work in Québéc and quebecois to come live in France.

It's complicated and cant be said in a thread like that (would take too long and I doubt my english skills would suffice to be 100% clear), but despite the small tensions between the two communities (french and quebecois) they are very linked to each other, and above all by their love for their language
They refer to us as their cousins d'Europe and we say that they are our cousins d'Amérique. And they are among the francophonie the best defenders of the french language.


Aux québecois de twcenter.net:
Je ne pouvais quitter ce message sans laisser un petit message à mes amis québécois dans notre langue.
Vive la francophonie! Et quelque soit votre décision lors du prochain référendum sachez que j'aurai toujours pour vous un immense respect
Amicalement, Draksen

[Yorkshireman]

I know exactly what you mean, and there are that kind of tension between some idiotic frenchmen and some other as idiotic quebecois... such things happen when the cultures and way to live are separated, look at the USA and the UK for instance, a good parallele in my humble opinion.

You might be surprised to find though that from an English/British point of view, apart from language and modern military/political ties, Britons are much closer culturally and in spirit to Aussies and New Zealanders than we are to Americans.

[igotballsofsteel]

Most Quebecois I know don't like or dislike the French, because many French consider the Quebecois to be rednecks.

we dont dislike the french i think its the same kind of friendly rivality of the american and the british.

17.7% of the population of Canada speak both English and French of those 9% are French first English second 8.7% are English first French second. Not a big difference. The French speakers want those whose mother-tongue is English to speak French yet they don't want to be forced to speak English...hypocritical in the extreme. Not sure which part was false either...The language statistics are government collected and the rest of it is true of any of those 60% who are crying into their wine about how mean old Anglo-Saxon George just won't learn French and they cannot understand a word he says in English.

We only want those mother-tongue of any language to talk french in quebec we dont care if u dont talk french in canada .



I voted yes and since im in the heart of the subject being a quebecois separatist im gonna stay away from this thread i posted some vids for your enjoyement


france

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7 years war

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new france (french)

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patriotes

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FLQ (french)

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FLQ

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FLQ in palestine

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De Gaule Vive le Quebec Libre !

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1 struggle

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[Ciabhán]

1 struggle

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This whole comparison of your 'struggle' to the one my father and his fathers faced continues to amase me. You lads want to seperate from Canada because you speak French. You are not oppressed in any way. No one tells you that you cannot speak your language that you must speak English, no one tells you that you cannot own land, vote, or find work. Your children don't starve. You are not illegally imprisoned. You are not under constant threat of violence or death. In fact if anything the rest of English speaking Canada makes concessions to your minority.

Just because everyone else doesn't croak Froggy is not reason enough.

[The Noble Lord]

No. They already had their chance and they voted against it.

When did they vote on the issue??