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  • American (U.S.A)

    44 20.66%
  • English

    34 15.96%
  • Scottish

    16 7.51%
  • Welsh

    2 0.94%
  • Irish

    18 8.45%
  • Northern Irish

    3 1.41%
  • French

    7 3.29%
  • German

    13 6.10%
  • Italian

    4 1.88%
  • Dutch

    13 6.10%
  • Canadian

    5 2.35%
  • Polish

    7 3.29%
  • Norwegian

    5 2.35%
  • Swedish

    13 6.10%
  • Danish

    9 4.23%
  • Belgian

    4 1.88%
  • Russian

    7 3.29%
  • Greek

    15 7.04%
  • Macedonian

    1 0.47%
  • Serbia

    5 2.35%
  • Kosovo

    2 0.94%
  • Albanian

    4 1.88%
  • Croatian

    2 0.94%
  • Bosnian (Bosnia Herzegovina)

    1 0.47%
  • Austrian

    2 0.94%
  • Portugese

    22 10.33%
  • Spanish

    2 0.94%
  • Israeli

    6 2.82%
  • Czech

    1 0.47%
  • Turkish

    6 2.82%
  • Other

    30 14.08%
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    I know this isn't really history, but I've seen so many nationalities running around answering questions from their country's point of view on VV, but also on all of TWC (though not as much, I think).

    So I want to see just how many nationalities there are on here, and moreover, how are they split?

    I'm guessing about a quarter british, a third american and the rest 'Other', with a lot of french, dutch, italian and german. I've put the first 30 that popped into my head, but please post your country if it's not there. Ive put European and North American countries there, as I've never seen S.American, Asian, Australasian or Africans on TWC. But I am more than willing to be proved wrong . I've also given precedence to countries which I've already seen on TWC, and I've put multiple so that if you're mixed you can put them in (don't go crazy though - I've got a few french and yugoslavian grandparents, but I'm not putting me down as either of them - that would be stupid as they're only about 1/48th or something of my nationality)
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    I'm born and raised in Sweden and regard myself as a Swede. My mom is from Sweden and my dad is from Gambia. My friend has repeatedly said that I'm ''more Swedish than he is!'' though, which we both find very funny... mostly because it has its roots in truth, despite being a joke .

    I'm eager to find out whether I've got other nationalities on my Swedish side, but I don't think that I have anything but Swedish and Gambian (Mandinka) ethnicity in me. This because my grandmom's side has always lived in Stockholm since time imemorial, while my granddad's side has lived in northern Uppland.
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    Northern Irish isn't a nationality. Nor are Scottish and Welsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    Northern Irish isn't a nationality. Nor are Scottish and Welsh.
    I was convinced Scots and Welsh consider themselves a nation. They have separate national football and rugby teams from England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CiviC View Post
    I was convinced Scots and Welsh consider themselves a nation. They have separate national football and rugby teams from England.
    There are no Scottish or Welsh nation-states, and no citizenship other than British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    There are no Scottish or Welsh nation-states, and no citizenship other than British.
    http://www.electricscotland.com/history/wylie/

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scottish-Nat.../dp/0140230041

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_People
    (read the first line)

    I think they are a nation even if they don't have a state. Czechs were too a nation before 1918 even if they didn't had a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CiviC View Post
    I think they are a nation even if they don't have a state. Czechs were too a nation before 1918 even if they didn't had a state.
    true, nation is the a group of people who have a common background (real or not) and attached to a common land. Often they don't have an independent state of their own (think of Palestine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    Northern Irish isn't a nationality. Nor are Scottish and Welsh.
    Don't talk pish.

    Scottish/Irish for me as are many people over here.


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    I am American/British/Italian/Portuguese/German/French/Greek/Turkish/Spanish and there all Christians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederich Barbarossa View Post
    I am American/British/Italian/Portuguese/German/French/Greek/Turkish/Spanish and there all Christians
    How is that?
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    But talks of Kurdistan or an Assyrian nation are dogged by controversy and heavily debated. They're far from widely accepted as nations.
    No what is filled with controversy is the debate surrounding whether or not these nations should have a state of their own (which I think best we shouldn't begin to discuss).

    Yuiis is perfectly right in his question... Was Ireland then not a nation when it was ruled by the Brits?
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    Chinese probably. Though China is a civilization pretending to be a nation. I will pretend to a chinese national then.
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    adding israel and not adding any arab nation ....

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    N Irish mother, English father, so British. Culturally (if thats the right description?) an Englishman. Yorkshire first though as thats more important!

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    Ita

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    Dutch/Irish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfAlexander View Post
    I'm guessing about a quarter british, a third american and the rest 'Other', with a lot of french, dutch, italian and german.
    Scandinavians probably outnumber Germans, Italians and French together with atleast 4:1. There is however a lot of Dutch and Belgian people. I think it has to do with what countries that learn the most English.




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    na·tion·al·i·ty (nsh-nl-t, nsh-nl-)n. pl. na·tion·al·i·ties 1. The status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.
    2. A people having common origins or traditions and often constituting a nation.
    3. Existence as a politically autonomous entity; national independence.
    4. National character.
    5. Nationalism.

    I find this definition contradictary (before anyone else wheel it out). You can have nationality of a country that cannot claim nationality. I still hold that personal nationality is derived from citizenship, naturalisation as above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    na·tion·al·i·ty (nsh-nl-t, nsh-nl-)n. pl. na·tion·al·i·ties 1. The status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.
    2. A people having common origins or traditions and often constituting a nation.
    3. Existence as a politically autonomous entity; national independence.
    4. National character.
    5. Nationalism.

    I find this definition contradictary (before anyone else wheel it out). You can have nationality of a country that cannot claim nationality. I still hold that personal nationality is derived from citizenship, naturalisation as above.
    Sometimes nationality means citizenship sometimes means belonging to a certain nation or national group.
    In my language citizenship is distinct from nationality (cetatenie and nationalitate) and there is no confusion. In French on the other hand nationality means citizenship mainly.
    Last edited by CiviC; September 08, 2009 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    na·tion·al·i·ty (nsh-nl-t, nsh-nl-)n. pl. na·tion·al·i·ties 1. The status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.
    2. A people having common origins or traditions and often constituting a nation.
    3. Existence as a politically autonomous entity; national independence.
    4. National character.
    5. Nationalism.

    I find this definition contradictary (before anyone else wheel it out). You can have nationality of a country that cannot claim nationality. I still hold that personal nationality is derived from citizenship, naturalisation as above.
    the reason is that sometimes there is no independent state for a group of people who nonetheless want to make a nation of their own. So the definition gets tricky there.
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