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    Been playing a Sicilian campaign, expanding fairly slowly through the course of the game. Gotten to around 45 provinces by 1330, mostly by seizing africa, south spain, and Italy, as per a fairly usual course. However, I'm running into some really frustrating sieges against the Abbuyids. Their Tabardiriyya(sp?) infantrymen are proving exceedingly troublesome in siege battles, and I'm puzled as to why. Their stats are not impressive by any means, though the terrain and their stamina certainly plays a part. However, when they tear through dismounted hospitallers with half their unit left, I'm at a loss as to what the heck is going on. What makes these guys so powerful? And any advice on taking them down in siege assaults?

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    They have the armour piercing attribute, which is why they can tear through your dismounted knights. AP units halve their opponents armour when attacking.

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    To handle them in a siege, I find it easier for me to focus exclusively upon them when I am besieging. I usually pit them against my own AP units, which I have found rather successful so far against AP units during sieges. Perhaps your Sicilio-Norman Knights will help, assuming you have them?

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    They don't have shields. Shoot them with crossbowmen, if you have any.

    If they're on the walls, shoot them with siege weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staffen View Post
    They don't have shields. Shoot them with crossbowmen, if you have any.

    If they're on the walls, shoot them with siege weapons.
    If that fails you can ask them realy nicely to take a nap.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs View Post
    If that fails you can ask them realy nicely to take a nap.
    Or tell them that their mother smells of elderberries

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    While farting in their general direction.

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    While farting in their general's direction.
    Corrected.

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    This Forum is changing into a Cat Lovers Appreciation Society, first we have CC, then Warmaster Tibs and now Staffen, with his cat picture too! What is this cat thing all about?

    I might just find a picture of a Puma, and use that has a avatar, rather than the boring Knight!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Navajo Joe View Post
    This Forum is changing into a Cat Lovers Appreciation Society, first we have CC, then Warmaster Tibs and now Staffen, with his cat picture too! What is this cat thing all about?

    I might just find a picture of a Puma, and use that has a avatar, rather than the boring Knight!
    Because CATS ARE THAT DAMN GOOD!!

    There are no Pumas, only cats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navajo Joe View Post
    This Forum is changing into a Cat Lovers Appreciation Society, first we have CC, then Warmaster Tibs and now Staffen, with his cat picture too! What is this cat thing all about?

    I might just find a picture of a Puma, and use that has a avatar, rather than the boring Knight!
    Get the TUNA. It's a tuna instead of the Puma with similar logo Or make a South Park avatar like mine on SP Studio

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    Dogs > Cats, period.


    And yes, as someone mentioned before, crossbowmen or other AP units are your best bet against those guys probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keizo View Post
    Dogs > Cats, period.

    Hey! Cut it out.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Ninja monkeys > Dogs > Cats

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    Ballistas for the win!
    ...ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

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    Chuck Norris > Ninja monkeys > Dogs > Cats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staffen View Post
    Chuck Norris > Ninja monkeys > Dogs > Cats
    TRAITOR!!!!

    To simplify this thread I simply state

    ISTVAAAAAAN!!!!> all
    Last edited by Warmaster Tibs; September 10, 2009 at 04:47 PM.
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    Istvan > Chuck Norris > Cats > Mortals.
    ...ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.P.C.U. View Post
    Istvan > Chuck Norris > Cats > Mortals.
    Correction

    ISTVAAAAAN> Cat Norris> Chuck Norris> Cluck Norris > Richard Simmons > Fonzy > Peter Griffin > That fat guy down the street > everything else.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    [X-wing pilot]
    Stay on topic. Stay on topic!
    [/x-wing pilot]

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