Middle Eastern's version of Capital Punisment: Hanging

[Kjertesvein]

Ok, allways when I see these hanging stories on TV there is all this drama, jet US and China execute people fast as hell.

Whats the big deal(relativly speaking)?

• Any one can observe the execution in public?
• Is the pain stronger/more suffering on the subject?
• Un-efficiency of the methods can lead to failed hangings/strangulation?
• "Visually barbaric"/un-western method?
• The process of execution is normally without a judicial process?

Mind you that I'm not looking for the reason for hanging, just why the condemning of the method.

[Arch-hereticK]

As the death penality exists only in the 32 most barbaric countries in the world, middle eastern countries are far from the worst. The main "positive" difference is the fact that it's the family's decision whether a murderer "deserves" to be mudered in turn, once he is found guilty by the state of course. The state (in most middle eastern countries) doesn't order deaths (publicly).

Hanging is not the only form of execution, in Iran and Saudi Arabia for instance they behead their victims. It should be noted that the death penalty applies to children in these countries too. 4 were publicly killed in Iran so far this year.

Hell before march 2005 America would kill kids too. So killing children isn't "un-western", but still very naughty.

Personally I think the needle is the most humane, but hanging is second(if rope is measured according to neck strength), then the chair.

But all I know about this I've been told by a Tunisian atheist, so some of it culd be wrong.

[Adhamh Ashashi]

Hanging is not the only form of execution, in Iran and Saudi Arabia for instance they behead their victims. It should be noted that the death penalty applies to children in these countries too. 4 were publicly killed in Iran so far this year.

Nope. Iran, being an Islamic state, cannot kill a child. One of the worst things you can do in Islam, is kill a child.

[Arch-hereticK]

Nope. Iran, being an Islamic state, cannot kill a child. One of the worst things you can do in Islam, is kill a child.

Sorry but.............
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2007/06/1...uting-children

There have been 17 children murdered in cold blood by this country since 2004 which eight times more than any other country in the world.

If you don't believe that source read this:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6244126.stm

[Taiji]

Nope. Iran, being an Islamic state, cannot kill a child. One of the worst things you can do in Islam, is kill a child.

Where does islam draw the line between child and adult? It looks to be lower than 13... unless Iran is somehow being unislamic without informing you, if that is possible.

[Kjertesvein]

Even beheading can be a clean, unpainfull experience(I have lack of experience, but I read on wiki). Just got to make sure the balde is sharp enuff and that the axe man got experience, and you are ready to go.
I really dont get what's the big fuzz about hanging, if they are going to be executed in the end. As long as it's not great, longlasting pain involved.

The thing with the lack of judicial process, I can get, but other then that it's a bit uncommen, I hold no objection to the method. I can also say that I'm anti-execution myself.

[Nimthill]

Actually the french came up with a really humane way: the guillotine.

Atleast there's no human error involved, unlike a slip of the axe.

[Каие]

Un-western? Wasn't hanging invented in the west in the first place?

I myself am vehemently against the Death Penalty, but if we had to have it in some perverse alternate reality, the method I would want is hanging. So that people can watch it, the person have his last words, a menacing hooded executioner is present and so the Judge can say ''Hang him high".

Joking aside, the reason why people engage in this most unnecessary dick waving contest is the perverted and frankly hypocritical nature of one type of people (in this case civilised humane westerners) condemning another group of people's (barbarian uncivilised easterners) preferred method in the phenomenon that is state sanctioned organised murder of a defenceless unarmed and tied down man in the pursuit of petty vengeance and short term personal fulfilment.

It's a genuine deluded case of ''My milkshake is better than yours..''

[CtrlAltDe1337]

I don't see anything wrong with hanging as long as the person is really guilty and has a fair trial and what-not. As far as punishment goes, I think hanging is a great method and was used in the US well into the 19th century afaik.

[Arch-hereticK]

Those found guilty at Nuremburg were hanged by a famous london hangman called Pierview, he shot himself ironically, I think. 1964 was the last hanging in the UK, he was found not guilty 2 days later. Poland I believe had the last hanging in 1997, only 12 years ago, incredible to think how close we are to being animals.

[Gromovnik]

Those found guilty at Nuremburg were hanged by a famous london hangman called Pierview, he shot himself ironically, I think. 1964 was the last hanging in the UK, he was found not guilty 2 days later. Poland I believe had the last hanging in 1997, only 12 years ago, incredible to think how close we are to being animals.

And which animals use hanging?

[Arch-hereticK]

And which animals use hanging?

lol, they all do it secretely, metaphorically.

[Theseus1234]

From what I know, when you hang you choke as well as break your neck, so I can imagine it would be an extremely painful experience. If we had to revert to 19th century executions, I would go with the guillotine.

[removeduser_487563287433]

[*]"Visually barbaric"/un-western method?

I think you're lacking some perspective. The last hanging in the UK was in 1964.

[Poach]

I have to ask here, why exactly are we so concerned with how much pain a man condemned to death feels in his final moments? The drop itself was meant to break your neck, after 1866 is was designed to do just that and after 1872 the drop was calculated to cause a broken neck. I also take except to the idea being "un-western", we in Britain had it until not too long ago and the Allies (including America, incase any Americans want to claim moral superiority) hung Nazi war criminals in '45.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

I have no problem with hanging as a way to carry out capital punishment.

[Georgy Zhukov]

hanging is/was condemed because when you had an inexperienced executioner and the drop doesn't break the neck then you have the condemned hanging, kicking, chocking and soiling him/herself. Quite a brutal process.

[Phier]

I think all executions should be public, and I'm generally 'pro' death penalty.

The issue is not how they are executed, but why that makes the difference between barbaric and civilized. The only civilized reason to not have a death penalty would be worry about the guilt of the convicted, not the act itself.

[Ace_General]

Hanging, well, its more for the visual affect of the body hang to intimidate people and whatnot then for the actual efficenty of killing people

Personally, I think the most humane way is a bullet to the brainstem, head, pretty much instant

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Hanging, well, its more for the visual affect of the body hang to intimidate people and whatnot then for the actual efficenty of killing people

Personally, I think the most humane way is a bullet to the brainstem, head, pretty much instant

How about several pounds of C4 and several hand-grenades strapped to yourself? That would be quite painless I think...