Based on his appearance, Adolf Hitler would be thrown into Auschwitz if he didnt happen to be the Der Fuhrer.
So why no German questioned Hitler's own ethnicity?
Based on his appearance, Adolf Hitler would be thrown into Auschwitz if he didnt happen to be the Der Fuhrer.
So why no German questioned Hitler's own ethnicity?
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -- Robert Pirsig
"Feminists are silent when the bills arrive." -- Aetius
"Women have made a pact with the devil — in return for the promise of exquisite beauty, their window to this world of lavish male attention is woefully brief." -- Some Guy
Ehrm no, he wouldn't.
Noone would have the courage of questioning him. He held such a sway over the people who surrounded him, that plainly speaking his looks were not really proportional with his iron rule. People followed him and sacrificed their lives until death and insanity, and certainly a pseudo-technicality like him not being the archetypal "man of race", which is a simply the ideological facade for his own absolute and boundless rule, would never ever harm him.
"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)
Interestingly enough, after the Anchluss of Austria, he had his closest operatives go to his hometown in Austria and burn all of the records. He could be Aryan, or he could not be.
Propaganda in those years was too strong and you forget that Nazi considered Tibetans as arians and also even some Arabs in order to take them with their side
I have no idea where the "no blond hair blue eyes you die!" thing (Im assuming thats what you are referring to with the appearance thing) came from but if it had been true I imagine there would have been a lot dead people across Europe than there had been.
Hitler had even wondered if he himself was Jewish. This idea stemmed from the fact that Hitler's father, Alois, was illegitimate and the identity of his grandfather had never been established. During Hitler's rise to power, his half-brother's son threatened to reveal that Hitler was of Jewish ancestry. One investigation discovered that Hitler's grandfather had been the son of a Jewish family called Frankenburger, in Gratz, who employed Hitler's grandmother, Maria Anna Schicklgruber, as a maid. She had become pregnant by their son, while she was working in their home. The family sent her money for a year and a half to help support the child. Another investigation said that Alois was conceived in Vienna, where Hitler's grandfather was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. Maria was sent home to Spital, where Hitler's father was born. Is that all true? we shall never find out
The whole Aryan thing was a garbage anyway. According to Rauschning Hitler himself named it "unscientific babble" once. Maybe later he believed it.
But that doesnt change that the same pople were aryans when they were neeeded and not aryant when they weren't.
In 1944 everybody could be aryan: whole Ss units were made from people who were not even close to be an "aryan" in Hitler's sense.
Wartime joke:
Q. What does pure Aryan looks like:
A. As tall as Goebbels, as slim as Goring, as blond as Hitler. ...
Everyone can be member of one or several ethnic groups. Individuals can change such groups from time to time depending on where they live and how they adapt to an enviroment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe
Hitler's ethnicity:
Hitler was a typical fin-de-siècle mid-central european village dude with a preference for roaring deers and forester-lodges. There is not much in Hitler's "ethinic" portfolio that could hint on a hidden mishpoche but anywhere where he was from, an austro-hungarian backwood. To bring it to the point: Hitler maybe seen as the psycho-version of Jaroslav Hašek's The Good Soldier Švejk.
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I find people are not well informed about what the real Nazis (not the Hollywood versions) actually thought what was an "Aryan". The Nordic ideal was that, an ideal, but obviously not the only aryans but just part of them. Any cursory visit of germany will show you that its far from being a blond-blueeyed country.
Hitler's ethno ideal illustrated by a genre paint of the typ "The Roaring Deer"*.
- watch the painting with sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_YqatgT24
*the late 19th century pin-up
Last edited by My Favorite Martian; September 06, 2009 at 05:14 AM.
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la moisson du peuple grandisse
moisson d'amour et de justice
au Soleil de la liberté!
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -- Robert Pirsig
"Feminists are silent when the bills arrive." -- Aetius
"Women have made a pact with the devil — in return for the promise of exquisite beauty, their window to this world of lavish male attention is woefully brief." -- Some Guy
He would hardly be thrown in Auschwitz. He looks pretty German to me.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
Originally Posted by Miel Cools
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A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Nothing really unusual about his physical appearance (even the moustache was not so extrememly uncommon), but I have seen a old propaganda poster (pre 1933 of course), where another German party (Bayerische Volkpartei) made fun of Goebbels look.
here I found I site with some caricatures, but not the one I've mentioned before: http://dikigoros.150m.com/goebbels.htm
In an earlier thread about similar issues I found while surfing this website which gives a pretty objective and critic view on matter how the Nazis doctrine evolved in regards to race from their earlier days up to the end of war. Quite a development.
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/gregor.html
I think if Hitler's plan worked it would be like the Spartan's system like aryans are the spartans and everone is the slaves
Yes, friends, governments in capitalist society are but committees of the rich to manage the affairs of the capitalist class.
-James Connolly
It's just, Aryans do not exist. The entire race theory is bogus.
Last edited by My Favorite Martian; September 06, 2009 at 11:20 AM.
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la moisson du peuple grandisse
moisson d'amour et de justice
au Soleil de la liberté!
personifies the hypocrisy of the whole aryan race.