Former German territories...

[uzi716]

I am taking a class in school and in that class we will be doing in depth study about 20th century Germany. So I decided to get a head start and read up a bit, I read a lot about the Oder-Neisse line, and a lot about the lost German territories.

So long story short, I began think; Should those lost territories be returned to Germany? I mean if you think about it there were a good amount of Germans living in those regions during the 20th century, most were expelled after WWII ended. And the Allies allowed Germany to retain those regions after WWI so, I just wonder....should those territories be given back? Or at least Konigsberg and Breslau since they were German for a very long time

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[Guderian's Duck]

All the ethnic Germans, as you said, were expelled shortly after the Second World War ended. The lands now are very much Polish. Poland itself was moved westward onto the old Prussian territories as the Soviets annexed parts of what was then eastern Poland.

[Gromovnik]

Nothing could be easier, just come and take it.

[ivan_the_terrible]

Nothing could be easier, just come and take it.

Yep, the Polish-German border is unguarded, after all.

[Hindenburg]

Since Germany was ultimately created by Prussia, I believe they should have them for the strong ties it holds to the Germans. The Prussians created Germany what it is and was.

[Farnan]

Since Germany was ultimately created by Prussia, I believe they should have them for the strong ties it holds to the Germans. The Prussians created Germany what it is and was.

So the United States should have Britain?

[King Edward III]

So the United States should have Britain?

Rather.. Britain should have the US.

[Lysimachus]

Rather.. Britain should have the US.

This.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

I believe they should... that territory was German for around 800 years...

[Tiberios]

I believe they should... that territory was German for around 800 years...

I agree, but only if the Germans leave all of Schleswig, right down to the Ejder river

Roman Empire started in Rome, Italy ...

... and ended when the Ottomans siezed Constantinople in 1453, ending the Eastern Roman Empire.

[Hindenburg]

no... I think you have it wrong since Great Britain made the 13 colonies.

But it's like an England-Scotland situation. Different cultures and views, but most view them as the same (which they are not)

[Farnan]

no... I think you have it wrong since Great Britain made the 13 colonies.

And Prussia made Germany.

How is that different?

But maybe Italy should get its former Empire back. I mean some of that land was Roman for centuries.

[RomanSoldier9001]

And Prussia made Germany.

How is that different?

But maybe Italy should get its former Empire back. I mean some of that land was Roman for centuries.

Most of Italians arent even descends of Ancient Romans many peoples settle there after the Roman Fall.
Also many peoples of europe are descends of Ancient Romans especealy countries of latin languages.
So Rome is more a european heritage than actualy Italian in fact the Eastern Roman Empire that was more based in Greece survived more than in West so in that perspective the romans would be greeks ant not italians.

[DAVIDE]

Most of Italians arent even descends of Ancient Romans many peoples settle there after the Roman Fall.
Also many peoples of europe are descends of Ancient Romans especealy countries of latin languages.
So Rome is more a european heritage than actualy Italian in fact the Eastern Roman Empire that was more based in Greece survived more than in West so in that perspective the romans would be greeks ant not italians.

according to?

Romans continued to live in the peninsula italica even after lombards, franks etc..Constitution law of invaders, as Lombards one for example, continued to make differentiation between them and local Romanii

[RomanSoldier9001]

according to?

Romans continued to live in the peninsula italica even after lombards, franks etc..Constitution law of invaders, as Lombards one for example, continued to make differentiation between them and local Romanii

So? I am not saing that italians arent descend from romans too.But a lot of others peoples have roman ancestos in fact a "pure roman people" never exist it was a mix of a lot of european peoples that what was Rome all about so italians can not be the only single descends and sucessors of Ancient Roman Empire.

[Hindenburg]

And Prussia made Germany.

How is that different?

But maybe Italy should get its former Empire back. I mean some of that land was Roman for centuries.

It seems you want to argue when I just express my opinion. It is mine and mine alone. I would think a Senior Mod would not try to pick a fight.

[RomanSoldier9001]

no... I think you have it wrong since Great Britain made the 13 colonies.

But it's like an England-Scotland situation. Different cultures and views, but most view them as the same (which they are not)

No.Prussians no longer exist their heritage survived in German Empire(Second Reich) Prussia was the state that actulay make the Empire their heritage was still notice in Third Reich many generals were prussian descend and Prussia was still part of Germany but after the defeat of Germany the prussian heritage pretty much was destroid the land past to Poland and Russia.And the prussians that still lived there or expel or fearing soviet crimes fled to the West before soviet troops arrived.

[Aru]

Idiotic idea.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

No. Germany and Prussia are literally the same cultures and same homeland. Its like saying oh the founding english king is from Coventry, and It was taken away after the second Halabalu war (WTF). The US and britain are different, their cultures were way different, from the start....

[Farnan]

No. Germany and Prussia are literally the same cultures and same homeland. Its like saying oh the founding english king is from Coventry, and It was taken away after the second Halabalu war (WTF). The US and britain are different, their cultures were way different, from the start....

As is Kalingrad and Germany. The US was like Britain went it was founded. And the US founder's family was from England. From what I understand Kaiser Wilhelm the First was born and raised in Berlin, which is still part of Germany, and Bismark is from Saxony.

Actually Kalingrad and Germany don't even speak the same language like the US and Britain.