Evil bastards next door

[Ciabhán]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...SS&attr=797084

Now I'm not English but I am 'British' ostensibly as an Irishman in NI. When was it that we started to allow this kind of ? I understand that we have our differences and we have sometimes 'solved' them with violence but I learned to to interact in a friendly way with the rest of Britian in part due to the culture of "'69". I grew up an angry 'oppressed' ostensibly Catholic Irish kid in Belfast and found common cause with other 'skinheads' back when braces, boots, reggae, and the working class culture of Britain invited foreign influence. We 'protected' the foreign kids. What happened to our progressive culture?

Obviously tis only one family but why did other families allow this to happen? Maybe there is something to be said for the xenophobic yet 'accepting' culture of my old haunts....we may not have accepted them immediately but once we had no one would have gotten away with this kind of .

[Amry]

I sincerely hope that the mother is punished.

[tabacila]

I blame it on violent video games.

[Amry]

I blame it on violent video games.

You forgot the [sarcasm] tag.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Good ole British Education at work.

[danzig]

Good ole British Education at work.

Probably should worry about your own country (no not Canada the other one) first before tossing out sweeping statements as there are idiots everywhere in the world.

[Tiberios]

Probably should worry about your own country (no not Canada the other one) first before tossing out sweeping statements as there are idiots everywhere in the world.

@OP:

That mother must be punished.

[Disaray]

Sounds like you have good old fasiond heads 'cross the pond as well. Perhaps it is just the rum in me but I can't help but wonder why the family that was targeted didn't make this a problem for the chief of police or the mayor of the town, or at least throw a few rocks back at them. I know England is a bit diferant from my native USA but I thought they would still stand up for them selves over there. I know if two hellions of that sort were causing me extended trubles in my neck of the woods they would have been delt with in short order after the police failed to solve the problem.

[Katsumoto]

The Police don't really do much here, you can complain to them, but then as soon as the neighbours find it out that you did they'd make your life even worse.

[Disaray]

The Police don't really do much here, you can complain to them, but then as soon as the neighbours find it out that you did they'd make your life even worse.

If you were to pull the kind of shanagins as the two punks in the article here I'd bet after the 3rd or so person to complain you would spend, at the very least, a night in jail, hell in some cities and states here if the cops are called out to a domestic disturbance they can't leave unltill they arest someone, though that was to combat the problem of the very same cops having to return to that adress to the sean of a murdure but the point still stands. Then again the fact that these punks hapen to be juviniles at the time of the crime being commited they probly would get off a little lighter than that.

Any way I bet if you were to call the chief of police every day some thing would get done, more like than not they would stop taking your calls all together in this day and age. In such an event I would make it my busines to show up there in person onece a day until the problem was resolved. The way I see it you pay taxes so that the police will protect you from such bull as described in the article and I would eather have to stop paying taxes or get what I wanted from the police befor I would stop buging them. Perhaps that is an uniquely American view on problem solving, make life hell for those that won't do what you want untill they do it that is.

[justicar5]

why the hell didn't the cops or social services act? Or the neighbourss have a 'quiet word'?

[Disaray]

It is very possigle that English law prevents the Cops from acting. I don't know a damn thing about English law so I sugest that you take me at exactly my word. I do konw that in America there are several things that I would consider worthy of being against the law that aren't, like being an idiot or being willfuly ignorant of something of great importance. That is, as they say, how the cookie crumbles, so you have to deal with it or make a move so that the law is chaged. You can do that in Great Britan right? Change the law that is.

[justicar5]

It is very possigle that English law prevents the Cops from acting. I don't know a damn thing about English law so I sugest that you take me at exactly my word. I do konw that in America there are several things that I would consider worthy of being against the law that aren't, like being an idiot or being willfuly ignorant of something of great importance. That is, as they say, how the cookie crumbles, so you have to deal with it or make a move so that the law is chaged. You can do that in Great Britan right? Change the law that is.

from that article what the guys where doing is illegal already: assault, disturbing the peace, causing a public nuisance, vandalism, threatening behaviour, possession of an controlled substance.... the list goes on.

[Tominokar]

It is very possigle that English law prevents the Cops from acting. I don't know a damn thing about English law so I sugest that you take me at exactly my word. I do konw that in America there are several things that I would consider worthy of being against the law that aren't, like being an idiot or being willfuly ignorant of something of great importance. That is, as they say, how the cookie crumbles, so you have to deal with it or make a move so that the law is chaged. You can do that in Great Britan right? Change the law that is.

The police and/or the council could have acted on numerous points, as has been said. Unfortunately the majority of police prefer standing around looking like authoritay, manhandling drunks and waiting for people to speed past them than actually helping citizens. I speak from personal experience.

[Ter]

Obviously tis only one family but why did other families allow this to happen? Maybe there is something to be said for the xenophobic yet 'accepting' culture of my old haunts....we may not have accepted them immediately but once we had no one would have gotten away with this kind of .

If they had tried to help they would have been told to keep out of other people's business (or similar). Communities just aren't as closely knit as they used to be and there's become a very defensive and private culture.

[mongrel]

Eventually the police asked Mr Abdullah to stop contacting them after every unpleasant encounter with the two brothers. “One officer said to me I should only contact them after every six or seven incidents. A council worker told us to write down everything that happened.”

Ah broken Britain.

[removeduser_487563287433]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...SS&attr=797084

Now I'm not English but I am 'British' ostensibly as an Irishman in NI. When was it that we started to allow this kind of ? I understand that we have our differences and we have sometimes 'solved' them with violence but I learned to to interact in a friendly way with the rest of Britian in part due to the culture of "'69". I grew up an angry 'oppressed' ostensibly Catholic Irish kid in Belfast and found common cause with other 'skinheads' back when braces, boots, reggae, and the working class culture of Britain invited foreign influence. We 'protected' the foreign kids. What happened to our progressive culture?

Obviously tis only one family but why did other families allow this to happen? Maybe there is something to be said for the xenophobic yet 'accepting' culture of my old haunts....we may not have accepted them immediately but once we had no one would have gotten away with this kind of .

Don't be so naive. This sort of thing happens every 10 years or so. The only disgusting thing here is how we treat the Baby Ps who live to 10 as evil.

[Treize]

Don't be so naive. This sort of thing happens every 10 years or so. The only disgusting thing here is how we treat the Baby Ps who live to 10 as evil.

I don't understand what you just said.

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They were accomapanied by public servants and police while leaving?
They were forced to leave?
So the police did do something but in secret, not telling 'Mr. Abdullah'?

[removeduser_487563287433]

They were forced to leave?

They were taken into care, yes.

[Treize]

I mean the mother.