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    Icon7 Is Nazi that bad as we told to believe?

    For example, when our country is stranded in a ecnomical crisis and millions of workers are out of job.
    Then the "Nazi" gov stepped up to promise stable jobs and relatively equal society, but the cost is less freedom and some massacre to the minority.

    If u are a normal worker, what will u choose?

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    vote nazi party.

    be big and powerful again.

    fight huge war.

    lose.

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    noticing your recent post on the africa topic, you would post something like this. Nazis need to burn in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander of Jordan View Post
    noticing your recent post on the africa topic, you would post something like this. Nazis need to burn in hell.
    So? We all massacred others before. What Nazi did is nothing that our ancestors haven't done, including the Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyorc View Post
    For example, when our country is stranded in a ecnomical crisis and millions of workers are out of job.
    Then the "Nazi" gov stepped up to promise stable jobs and relatively equal society, but the cost is less freedom and some massacre to the minority.

    If u are a normal worker, what will u choose?
    Oh, well I'm glad that thats all we would have to worry about

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheT View Post
    Oh, well I'm glad that thats all we would have to worry about
    Well since i am not the minority, i dont care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyorc View Post
    Well since i am not the minority, i dont care.
    "First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    "First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me."
    It is an interesting view you present.
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    Well since i am not the minority, i dont care.
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    Not even when your kids are starving?
    Which starving kids before 1945, those in Poland, Buchenwald or those in the cellar close to Hamburg and the backrooms of Amsterdam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyorc View Post
    Well since i am not the minority, i dont care.
    same

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    The economic recovery actually started before Hitler even became chancellor. The Nazis simply sped up the process by spending ridiculous amounts re-arming Germany and building public works for the military. It's almost something of a myth that Hitler fixed Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guderian's Duck View Post
    The economic recovery actually started before Hitler even became chancellor. The Nazis simply sped up the process by spending ridiculous amounts re-arming Germany and building public works for the military. It's almost something of a myth that Hitler fixed Germany.
    Combined with the fact that Nazi Germany was almost bankrupt in 1939. One of the few ways out was through war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guderian's Duck View Post
    The economic recovery actually started before Hitler even became chancellor. The Nazis simply sped up the process by spending ridiculous amounts re-arming Germany and building public works for the military. It's almost something of a myth that Hitler fixed Germany.
    He actually bankrupted germany. This was only covered up by war economy and looting and pillaging the occupied regions. Even victory would have most likely meant a great depression as most of the govenment financial decisions were bogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guderian's Duck View Post
    The economic recovery actually started before Hitler even became chancellor. The Nazis simply sped up the process by spending ridiculous amounts re-arming Germany and building public works for the military. It's almost something of a myth that Hitler fixed Germany.
    thats true, without a war germany would have been broke within a couple years..hyperinflation etc

    i must say there were many programs like kraft durch freude and support for families with many children that i acually wish would be reinroduced. there was a very social part in national socialism but of course only a minor, neglectable part.

    to answer the question, of course national socialism is as bad as we are told to believe. the nagative outweights the positive severely. a more interesting question would be "is socialism as bad as we are told to believe" because the few positive parts of nationasocialism were pretty much socialist ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    thats true, without a war germany would have been broke within a couple years..hyperinflation etc

    i must say there were many programs like kraft durch freude and support for families with many children that i acually wish would be reinroduced. there was a very social part in national socialism but of course only a minor, neglectable part.

    to answer the question, of course national socialism is as bad as we are told to believe. the nagative outweights the positive severely. a more interesting question would be "is socialism as bad as we are told to believe" because the few positive parts of nationasocialism were pretty much socialist ideas.
    Couldnt agree more

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    No, I wouldn't vote for the massacre of a minority just for a stable job and improved economy.

    Your question is probably insulting to most TWC members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    No, I wouldn't vote for the massacre of a minority just for a stable job and improved economy.
    Not even when your kids are starving?


    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Your question is probably insulting to most TWC members.
    Your answer is probably insulting to some TWC members as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by aqd View Post
    Your answer is probably insulting to some TWC members as well
    Only if those members cant read

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    Depends; consider the Weimar's politic in 1933 was either 1. Nazism 2. Communism, I would probably choose Nazism, less of two evils.

    And don't give me about Market Liberal or Social Democrate - they failed between 1931 to 1933; even a military government was failed in 1932 so we can pretty much see how badly Weimar was at that time.

    Not to mention quite a number of German generals agreed that German force had higher moral and discipline than Imperial troops during WWI because of Nazism.
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    Regardless of whether or not the Nazis might have been the better choice in the 1932 elections, they were still evil. So the answer to the original question was yes, they are as bad. Every bit as bad. And I'm sure most Germans regretted electing the Nazis once their cities were in ruins, their sons dead and maimed, and their daughters raped and beaten by the vengeful Soviets.

    What's with all these "Hitler and Nazis get a worse rep then they should" threads recently? If anything the anniversary of WWII should highlight the reasons that they do get the reputation as one of the most evil regimes of all time (moreso than the Soviets even-if they had been less evil, the disaffected Soviet people would've joined them).

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    I would choose Nazism (No joking)

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