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    Default China to Unveil New Nukes

    From http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090902...ilitarymissile

    I guess somewhere had all that stolen/hacked US tech gone after all.

    China set to unveil new missiles: state media

    Sep 2, 2009

    BEIJING (AFP) – China will unveil a range of previously unknown missiles during its October 1 National Day parade, including intercontinental ballistic nuclear missiles, state media said Wednesday.

    The new hardware on display also will include conventional cruise missiles and both short- and medium-range missiles, the Global Times newspaper reported, citing an unnamed People's Liberation Army source.

    "These missiles are domestically designed and manufactured and have never been officially reported before," the source, who is with the PLA's strategic missile defence unit, was quoted as saying.

    The weapons have already been distributed to the military and are ready for operation, the source said.

    China's missile development programme has caused concern overseas, particularly in the United States, amid projections that it could soon tip the security balance in the Taiwan Strait.

    An August report by the Rand Corporation, a US think-tank, said China was increasing both the quantity and quality of its short-range ballistic missiles, which could challenge the US's ability to protect Taiwan from possible attack.

    China also caused alarm overseas in 2007 when it successfully tested an anti-satellite missile, raising fears of a space arms race.

    China issued a military policy white paper earlier this year, saying its missile programme was aimed mainly at "deterrence".

    However, it added it was also capable of "conducting nuclear counter-attacks and precision strikes with conventional missiles."

    China will stage a huge military parade and pageant in Beijing on October 1 to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the founding of communist China.

    The parades, held every 10 years, typically showcase new-generation weapons systems and are closely scrutinised by both domestic and foreign military watchers for clues about Chinese development trends.

    The expert quoted by the Global Times did not reveal the model names or numbers of the missiles.

    However, missiles believed to have been developed by China include the Dongfeng 41, a solid-fuel ICBM with an estimated range of up to 12,000 kilometres (7,500 miles).

    The missile would be China's longest-range ICBM, according to US-based GlobalSecurity.org, a leading independent source of military information.

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    Wow Chinese government are a bunch of showoff dicks.
    Last edited by Justinian; September 03, 2009 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    Wow Chinese government are a bunch of showoff d i c k s.
    Generally, all governments and their personnel are.

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    It's that time again.

    They do this once every 10 years.

    I was there at the last one, you know. Very impressive stuff.

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    commencing sinophobic rants in 3...2..ooh too late

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    I think it wonderful they are building weapons that can never be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant View Post
    I think it wonderful they are building weapons that can never be used.
    to be fair, the chinese nuke arsenal was outdated and needed upgrades, consistent with their policy of minimum deterrance

    btw the rand corp. isnt exactly the most ahem honest of think tanks, especially with its links to military brass wanting more USG bailout $$$ for new toys like laser planes

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant View Post
    I think it wonderful they are building weapons that can never be used.
    Of course America aren't doing exactly the same are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant View Post
    I think it wonderful they are building weapons that can never be used.

    Don't hold your breath .

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    Who cares.

    Most of the Chinese IRBMs and SLBMs suck big time anyway. The only portion of their arsenal that would be even remotely reliable are their ICBMs, and they sacrifice accuracy to have that reliability.

    The JL-2 design nearly sank the Xia class SSBN that tried to launch it. Aside from the class itself being plagued with even worse maintenance and system faults then the French Charles DeGaulle.

    The ABM Shield farms at Fort Greely and Vandenberg AFB already act as an effective deterrent against the Chinese ICBM force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    Who cares.

    Most of the Chinese IRBMs and SLBMs suck big time anyway. The only portion of their arsenal that would be even remotely reliable are their ICBMs, and they sacrifice accuracy to have that reliability.

    The JL-2 design nearly sank the Xia class SSBN that tried to launch it. Aside from the class itself being plagued with even worse maintenance and system faults then the French Charles DeGaulle.

    The ABM Shield farms at Fort Greely and Vandenberg AFB already act as an effective deterrent against the Chinese ICBM force.
    sources?
    and remember, caelius, tom clancy novels arent primary sources.
    for that record, neither is Newsweek.

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    I don't really care. China obviously isnt a threat- there isn't going to be a nuclear war anytime soon. It's just meant to make the people feel better. A placebo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.L.I.G View Post
    I don't really care. China obviously isnt a threat- there isn't going to be a nuclear war anytime soon. It's just meant to make the people feel better. A placebo.
    I may be starving to death but those Nukes sure make me feel better.

    Interesting way to look at it. That, or the Chinese military establishment is as much of a social parasite to the Chinese as the US military is to Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    all while our stockpile of nukes turn to rust! thanks democrats!
    Could it be another gap?

    I think I just gave a bunch of military contractors a huge erection.

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    It is wrong for China to have nukes, but perfectly ok for the U.S. to posses the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor View Post
    It is wrong for China to have nukes, but perfectly ok for the U.S. to posses the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.
    IIRC the award for the most heavily armed country in the world when it comes to nuclear weapons is Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    IIRC the award for the most heavily armed country in the world when it comes to nuclear weapons is Russia.
    pwned

    China has declared a no-first use policy of nuclear weapons so I am not worried despite these ICBMs and IRBMS easily having enough range to strike targets in India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    IIRC the award for the most heavily armed country in the world when it comes to nuclear weapons is Russia.
    Clearly this invalidates my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor View Post
    It is wrong for China to have nukes, but perfectly ok for the U.S. to posses the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.
    yep it is actually because where awesome like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    I may be starving to death but those Nukes sure make me feel better.

    Interesting way to look at it. That, or the Chinese military establishment is as much of a social parasite to the Chinese as the US military is to Americans.
    Yeah....or I was implying the more affluent, rich, and politically aware Chinese Nationalists get a hard on when their country is armed with nukes. But your starving farmer joke makes more sense. That must of been what I was going for!
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