Ancilliary uses new skin?

[Gnostiko]

Is it possible to have an ancilliary change the stratmap skin of a model? If so, what is the specific trigger I'm looking for?

[Gigantus]

There are several levels of strat models (see priest, bishop, cardinal), the use of which is scripted through traits. You might be able to do the same with the ancillary.
The britannia campaign uses something similar for the use of the king model for the leader.

[Gnostiko]

There are several levels of strat models (see priest, bishop, cardinal), the use of which is scripted through traits. You might be able to do the same with the ancillary.
The britannia campaign uses something similar for the use of the king model for the leader.

Funny you should have said that as it's the angle I was looking at - essentially I'd like to be able to give priests an ancilliary that changes their stratmap skin. Failing that, I could always try with a trait. Where could I look for more info on this?

[Gigantus]

Beats me. But a beginning would be to trace how it is triggered now.
Check the descr_strat file and the priests that you know start as bishops, crosscheck their traits (I think priest 2) against e_d_character_traits, same with the king model that is used in the brittania campaign as I mentioned, there I think it is leader 2.

[konny]

Yes, the attribute in EDCT is called "Level". Each level equals the entry in ehhmmm, forgot the name of the file that assigns strat_models, but it should not be difficult to find. You can assing each level a displayed name in expanded.txt. I haven't seen it working with ancillaries, but it is worth a try. Otherwise grant a hidden trait that has the "level" together with the ancillary

For example, when you want to make a character Despotes with a special start model you would give him the trait (in case it does not work directly with ancillaries) the usual way. This trait might give him the "Level 3", what would be the Despotes start model. In expanded.txt you would assign the name "Despotes" to this level, that way he would be labled "Byzantine Despotes" on mouseover.

Removing the trait when losing the ancillary should reset the strat model (never tried it, but it should work).


The problem is that these levels seem to work cumulative. So when he has Level 3 = Despotes and becomes faction heir, what could be Level 4, he would that way have Level 7, what might be a patriarcha or the faction leader, and would be displayed that way.

[makanyane]

The problem is that these levels seem to work cumulative. So when he has Level 3 = Despotes and becomes faction heir, what could be Level 4, he would that way have Level 7, what might be a patriarcha or the faction leader, and would be displayed that way.

hadn't realised that was the case,

if so the trick would be to combine all the things that can possibly give different strat map 'Level' effects into one trait with various trait levels for the affected faction, then set the threshold numbers so that the only way the person can arrive at the right level is to have the correct 'x' number of that trait's points.

So say he's faction leader, make sure that level of the trait requires 100 points to meet the threshold to get the trait level that has "Effect Level 2" or whichever it is.... and trigger for becoming faction leader is only thing with the +80 or whatever from the other possible candidates to get him into that range... might take a bit of maths to work out if you're doing something complex....

[Swagger]

Identifier: change_battle_model
Parameters: guild
Description: Changes the faction's leader/heir's battle model.
Sample use: change_battle_model england leader [model]
Class: CHANGE_BATTLE_MODEL
Implemented: Yes
Author: Mark

[makanyane]

Identifier: change_battle_model
Parameters: guild
Description: Changes the faction's leader/heir's battle model.
Sample use: change_battle_model england leader [model]
Class: CHANGE_BATTLE_MODEL
Implemented: Yes
Author: Mark

yup, but battle-model is completely different question from stratmap model

though it might well come next....

[Augustus Lucifer]

Problem with battle model is it only works for leader/heir. It seems to be another one of those last-minute application things, where they needed it for William Wallace and Richard the Lionheart or whatever, so they implemented it and tied it to the leader/heir distinction. It could well have been tied to a method similar to that of the Level command, but noooooooooo....

[Gigantus]

These are the traits for the leader strat models from the brittania campaign. It does not appear they are accumulative as the heir has model two (model one being the default for named characters) and the leader model three. Theoretical it should be possible to extend the model level and assign the models as per level.

Trait Factionleader
Characters family
AntiTraits Factionheir

Level Faction_Leader
Description Faction_Leader_desc
EffectsDescription Faction_Leader_effects_desc
Threshold 1

Effect Command 1
Effect Authority 2
Effect PersonalSecurity 3
Effect Level 2



;------------------------------------------
Trait Factionheir
Characters family
AntiTraits Exheir

Level Heir_Apparent
Description Heir_Apparent_desc
EffectsDescription Heir_Apparent_effects_desc
Threshold 1

Effect Command 1
Effect Authority 1
Effect PersonalSecurity 2
Effect Level 1

[konny]

Dont' forget he is no longer FH when becoming FL.

Here is an example from dHRR:

descr_character.txt

faction            burgundy
dictionary        2
strat_model        teutonic_general                ; default level 0
strat_model        teutonic_general                ; level 1, heir
strat_model        teutonic_general                ; level 2, faction leader
strat_model        northern_generic_emperor    ; level 3, emperor
strat_model        northern_generic_king         ; level 4, crowned king
strat_model        catholic_bishop                  ; level 5 Archbishop
battle_model    german_general    ;Northern_General
battle_equip    gladius, chainmail shirt helmet and rectangular shield

EDCT

;------------------------------------------
Trait Emperor
    Characters family

    Level Emperor
        Description Emperor_desc
        EffectsDescription Emperor_effects_desc
        Epithet Emperor_epithet_desc
    Threshold  1 

    Effect Authority 1 
    Effect Level  1

Because the emperor always is FL (level 2) he is only assigned one additional level to reach 3. If this trait would have "Effect Level 3" the emperor would in fact have Level 5 cumulative and be displayed as an archbishop.

[Gigantus]

Following that reasoning the trait 'crowned king' would then again have 'level 2' as effect?

[konny]

Yep:

Trait King
    Characters family
    Hidden

    Level King
        Description NoEffect_desc
        EffectsDescription NoEffect_desc
;        Epithet Emperor_epithet_desc
    Threshold  1 

    Effect Level  2

[Gigantus]

Thanks konny, helpful as usual.

[konny]

[Gigantus]

Looks familiar

[Swagger]

*gigantus reclaims trademark*

[SigniferOne]

Folks unless I'm mistaken you can specify the stratmap model via spawn_character or spawn_army.

[Swagger]

you're correct