You claim Stalin killed millions of people? Prove it to me

[0N3]

Simple, post your claim then your proof. I will not necessarily debate against you, i would just like to see some proof.

[Lysimachus]

Gulags

Stalin

For goodness sake, why do you ask this when it's been proven?

[Lord de Lyonesse]

Gulags

Stalin

For goodness sake, why do you ask this when it's been proven?

My point exactly, +rep for you Lysimachus for essentially killing this useless thread.

[Comrade the Colonel]

Simple, post your claim then your proof. I will not necessarily debate against you, i would just like to see some proof.

how about you prove that he didnt?

[ivan_the_terrible]

how about you prove that he didnt?

Not that I agree with the OP, but this isn't how history works....

[Frederich Barbarossa]

Not that I agree with the OP, but this isn't how history works....

I much rather have the russian royal family reinstated then having this russian federation on
I lub u Ivan

again, the elite. The ones that could organize an rebellion. + It was not Stalin that ordered this

Oh then the fricking tooth fairy of siberia ordered it? Are you seriously that ..... Please this topic is really really stupid.

[Barry Goldwater]

Great job at ripping a part of my post out of context.

How so? You said Stalin did not 'kill directly'. I'd imagine what you were trying to say was pretty obvious, but if I'm wrong then by all means, correct me.

[bushbush]

why do u want to defend Stalin? it's as absurd as a chinese defending Mao. They should be dig up and shot, buried, dig up and shot again.

[Barry Goldwater]

Why bother even asking? Just a quick look at Wikipedia should give you the proof you want.

[Tiberios]

why do u want to defend Stalin? it's as absurd as a chinese defending Mao. They should be dig up and shot, buried, dig up and shot again.

Lol Seconded

What is it with this trend of defending Stalin

[Pious Agnost]

Lol Seconded

What is it with this trend of defending Stalin

Envy



Look at that moustache...

[ThiudareiksGunthigg]

I'd love to put these little Borat posters in a time machine and send them back to the good old USSR, circa 1937. I wonder how nice they'd think it was then.

[Babur]

Lol Seconded

What is it with this trend of defending Stalin

I dunno, I saw his grave last week and his bust had a smirk on it unlike the other people's busts .I said to my brother in the open there that he was a monster who murdered millions.

[Tiberios]

when I visited his grave last week in the Kremlin wall I felt a very strong urge to spit on his grave

Hope you didn't. Otherwise Comrade Putin would be after you

[Babur]

Hope you didn't. Otherwise Comrade Putin would be after you

indeed after all this was just outside the Kremlin

I "think" I got his bust in this pic:

Did you?

there were guards in Red Square, I wouldn't want to end up in a Russian jail especially since I am darker skinned

[Tiberios]

indeed after all this was just outside the Kremlin

Can't blame you

[Pious Agnost]

there were guards in Red Square, I wouldn't want to end up in a Russian jail especially due to my darker skin colour

"Hey what's that over there!"

*SPIT*

[Burnum]

Holodomor

[Heathen Hammer]

Of course, there were millions. But Stalin did not kill people directly. Overall, his rule resulted in a bit less than 10 millions of deaths, that came from multiple factors, but mostly harsh repressions within the party and military and hunger in rural areas of Soviet Union, caused by insufficient "five-year plans" and infrastructure, that was crippled after Civil War.

[MaximiIian]

Simple, post your claim then your proof. I will not necessarily debate against you, i would just like to see some proof.

According to the relevant article:

More than 14 million people passed through the Gulag from 1929 to 1953, with a further 6 to 7 million being deported and exiled to remote areas of the USSR.[5] According to Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the GULAG from 1934 to 1953, not counting those who died in labor colonies[6] or those who died shortly after their release but which resulted from the harsh treatment in the camps.[7] Anne Applebaum notes that "both archives and memoirs indicate that it was common practice in many camps to release prisoners who were on the point of dying, thereby lowering camp death statistics."[8] The total population of the camps varied from 510,307 (in 1934) to 1,727,970 (in 1953).[9]

And the article on the Great Purge:

At least 724,000 were executed...Some experts believe the evidence released from the Soviet archives is understated, incomplete or unreliable.[46][48][49][50] For example, Robert Conquest suggests that the probable figure for executions during the years of the Great Purge is not 681,692, but some two and a half times as high. He believes that the KGB was covering its tracks by falsifying the dates and causes of death of rehabilitated victims.[51]

Those are those killed by Stalin's orders directly. Intentional deaths. So, around two to three million people. Then, you have to factor in unintentional deaths from relocations, famines (particularly the 1932 Ukrainian Famine), and World War II, caused partly or in whole by Soviet economic, civil, and military policies. The number climbs to well over 20 million people.