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    Icon5 Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Hi =)

    I really hope we will see historical accurate uniforms/cloths/armours etc etc... And that every faction has their own historical colours.

    In vanilla, the English had their shields having white cross with red background, which made them look like Danish in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Strand View Post
    Hi =)

    I really hope we will see historical accurate uniforms/cloths/armours etc etc... And that every faction has their own historical colours.

    In vanilla, the English had their shields having white cross with red background, which made them look like Danish in my opinion.
    Yes i can quarantee that the mod will present the medieval world as accurate as it can get.
    Any way you are right ,english should have red crosses on white background ...
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    Anthonius is spot on; most, if not all uniforms will have historical references to back them up, but on some occasions we might just throw something on for the sake of making the units look even cooler.
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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Quote Originally Posted by OdinX View Post
    but on some occasions we might just throw something on for the sake of making the units look even cooler.
    I don't know if I'd go as far as to say that, but when the evidence is debatable, vague, or non-existent, it makes sense to make the choice that is most plausible as well as aesthetically pleasing.
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    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Most historically accurate is to have NO uniforms at all actually :-) But as for the armour yes, it will definitely be accurate for all units basically. Appearances might not as sumskilz says, becuase sometimes there simply is no reference or evidence to base it on.

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    I hope that this will be the same with flags. I hate when other medieval mods use the emblem of the twentieth century! Or changing the direction in which the eagle emblem looks.

    "The truth is in the middle... perhaps so that all interfere" Aristotle



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    I'd like to see a little less colour in the uniforms/armours, especially among the lower class warriors. I think it's really unrealistic when, let's say, a french army shines in all tones of blue. More brown/undyed cloth please!
    The upper class should have coloured cloth, but in different colours! The French had counties with not only blue but red, green,... surcoats; the English not only red, but blue, green...

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Doge. View Post
    I'd like to see a little less colour in the uniforms/armours, especially among the lower class warriors. I think it's really unrealistic when, let's say, a french army shines in all tones of blue. More brown/undyed cloth please!
    The upper class should have coloured cloth, but in different colours! The French had counties with not only blue but red, green,... surcoats; the English not only red, but blue, green...
    Have you looked at our unit previews?
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Of course, an I love them, but I haven't red the statement that you're going make all the textures in the style I explained above, especially the part with the upper class units in different colours.

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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    The knights of various factions will have individual coats-of-arms not national ones. We only have one unit that wears national colors because these are men who would have wore the arms of their particular lord. Since we can't have multiple textures per faction, we chose to have them in wear the national COA with some variation. Take a look at Pacco's shields to see what I mean.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Sounds very good, thank you!

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    To be honest, would it not be more realistic if factions did'nt have specific surcoat/armour colours? Personally i think units should have random colours because most of the soldiers in this era bought their own equipment etc so they surely would'nt all have the same colour materials on their armour? I think a more dirty/rugged look to the troops would be more realistic.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    To be honest, would it not be more realistic if factions did'nt have specific surcoat/armour colours?
    How is this different from what I said? It depends on the unit and the time period though. For example, during the Hundred Years War it was common for professional English soldiers to wear the Cross of Saint George.

    Personally i think units should have random colours because most of the soldiers in this era bought their own equipment etc so they surely would'nt all have the same colour materials on their armour?
    Colors shouldn't be random, there were color/stylistic conventions in different cultural regions - rules of heraldry for Europe, symbolic color associations in the Middle-East, etc.


    I think a more dirty/rugged look to the troops would be more realistic.
    Again it depends on the unit. Upper class soldiers and some elite units would have looked sharp and clean.

    Have you seen our unit previews?
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    How is this different from what I said? It depends on the unit and the time period though. For example, during the Hundred Years War it was common for professional English soldiers to wear the Cross of Saint George.

    Colors shouldn't be random, there were color/stylistic conventions in different cultural regions - rules of heraldry for Europe, symbolic color associations in the Middle-East, etc.

    Again it depends on the unit. Upper class soldiers and some elite units would have looked sharp and clean.

    Have you seen our unit previews?


    Alright take it easy, i'm just saying what i think would look good.

    And yeah i've seen the unit previews, they look awesome.
    Especially the feudal infantry unit, can't remember the name but anyhoo they look great.
    Last edited by Goodfella; September 19, 2009 at 05:26 AM.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goodfella View Post
    Alright take it easy, i'm just saying what i think would look good.
    I wasn't distraught. I agree with you except that it all depends on the situation. Rest assured that the appearances of our units are based on actual evidence whenever possible.

    And yeah i've seen the unit previews, they look awesome.
    Especially the feudal infantry unit, can't remember the name but anyhoo they look great.
    Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Default Re: Will it be historical accurate uniforms/armours?

    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    I wasn't distraught. I agree with you except that it all depends on the situation. Rest assured that the appearances of our units are based on actual evidence whenever possible.
    Nice one.


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