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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32644749..._central_asia/

    Guards hired by the State Department to protect diplomats and staff at the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan live and work in a "Lord of the Flies" environment in which they are subjected to hazing and other inappropriate behavior by supervisors, a government oversight group charged Tuesday.
    In a 10-page letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the independent Project on Government Oversight contended the situation has led to a breakdown in morale and leadership that compromises security at the embassy in Kabul where nearly 1,000 U.S. diplomats, staff and Afghan nationals work.
    In a statement on Wednesday, the U.S. Embassy said it was aware of the POGO report. "Nothing is more important to us than the safety and security of all Embassy personnel — Americans and Afghan — and respect for the cultural and religious values of all Afghans," the embassy said.

    "We have taken immediate steps to review all local guard force policies and procedures and have taken all possible measures to ensure our security is sound. We will work closely with the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) to investigate the issues raised in this report, but cannot comment further on this ongoing investigation."

    Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., on Tuesday called on the State Department to open an investigation into the performance and management of the contract with ArmorGroup North America. McCaskill, who chairs a Senate subcommittee on contracting oversight, said the new evidence calls into question the company's ability to provide adequate security at a key facility.
    In a letter to Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management, McCaskill also demanded a slew of documents related to the contract, including any department reviews of alleged misconduct by ArmorGroup employees.
    The nonprofit group's findings are based on interviews with ArmorGroup guards, documents, photographs and e-mails that it says depict "Lord of the Flies" conditions. The reference is to the 1954 novel by William Golding about a group of British schoolboys who are stranded on a desert island and try, but fail, to govern themselves in a chaotic setting.


    Lurid conditions described in e-mail
    One e-mail from a guard describes lurid conditions at Camp Sullivan, the guards' quarters a few miles from the embassy. The message described scenes of abuse including guards and supervisors urinating on people and "threats and intimidation from those leaders participating in this activity."
    Photographs show guards and supervisors in various stages of nudity at parties that took place near the housing of other supervisors.

    Multiple guards say these conditions have created a "climate of fear and coercion." Those who refuse to participate are often ridiculed, humiliated or even fired, they contended.

    ArmorGroup's management is aware of the conditions but has not stopped it or disciplined those responsible, the letter says. Two supervisors alleged to be the worst offenders have been allowed to resign and may now be working on other U.S. contracts, the group said.

    Wackenhut Services, ArmorGroup North America's parent company, did not respond to a request for comment on the allegations.
    State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters Tuesday that Clinton has been apprised of the allegations. The group also sent the letter to the State Department's inspector general, the independent Commission on Wartime Contracting and members of Congress.
    "These are very serious allegations," Kelly said, adding that the State Department has been talking to the contractor about "addressing deficiencies in their performance."
    The group's investigation found sleep-deprived guards regularly logging 14-hour days, language barriers that impair critical communications, and a failure by the State Department to hold the contractor accountable.
    The State Department has been aware of ArmorGroup's shortcomings, the letter says, but hasn't done enough to correct the problems.

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    Embassies are sovereign territory of that country, so I couldn't care less what happened inside it. It's coarse and uncivilized, but a nudist party-cum-orgy is probably not something I would be concerned about at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amry View Post
    Embassies are sovereign territory of that country, so I couldn't care less what happened inside it. It's coarse and uncivilized, but a nudist party-cum-orgy is probably not something I would be concerned about at this point.
    From what I understand, he nude parties didn't happen at the Embassy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    From what I understand, he nude parties didn't happen at the Embassy.
    Yeah, probably my mistake, just skimmed through the article.

    Now mind you, I'm against workplace bullying and other shennanigans, but I don't see the significance of this occurence. Disciplinary infarctions have been committed, and I trust the Americans have their proper procedures to deal with this. I don't see this as something extraordinary, nor can I think of what are we supposed to be discussing here ("urinating on your co-workers is bad"?)

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    Damn, its been a LONG time since I've been to a nude party.

    Of course if their nude parties were only men... well thats not so good.

    So anyways, fun article, but what was the point?
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    short version: People on deployment got hazed, things went a bit nuts.

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    In other words overpaid, crazed, veteran, mercenaries who fear for their lives like to party... How is this news? I would party there to, its obviously part of the company culture. Of course the locals might not approve, which could lead to an ACTUAL scandal... What "next peace corps volunteers smoke weed in Nigeria"? - so what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishmafia2020 View Post
    I would party there to, its obviously part of the company culture.
    Would you also let them urinate on you?

    Or did you not read beyond the title?



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    I just saw this on MSNBC today when I got home from work. What the hell is making it onto the news these days? For God's sakes it not news worthy. Some local Afghan guards got drunk and naked and partied too hard. WOOOOOOOW Let's blow it out of proportion cause today is a slow news day. Sorry, chaps, I've got a buddy at the embassy in Kabul, this a non-issue completely overblown by the retards that run the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jin View Post
    I just saw this on MSNBC today when I got home from work. What the hell is making it onto the news these days? For God's sakes it not news worthy. Some local Afghan guards got drunk and naked and partied too hard. WOOOOOOOW Let's blow it out of proportion cause today is a slow news day. Sorry, chaps, I've got a buddy at the embassy in Kabul, this a non-issue completely overblown by the retards that run the media.
    You have any proof of this, or are you just spewing "AMERICAS COOL YO!" lines again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shahanshah of Pakistan View Post
    You have any proof of this, or are you just spewing "AMERICAS COOL YO!" lines again?
    Oh God, cause that's what I spew, man. Come off it. For all your moaning and complaining you sure do immediately believe anything you see on tv. I'm glad you're objective, dude, it really helps. I don't have, nor do I need proof. It's a sensationalized news stories. What do you think they are? Mercenaries that haze each other? No, they are freakin' local guards, remember in a thread like two days ago how I was talking about how Pakistanis voluntarily serve as local guards for American embassies and consulates in Pakistan?? Remember that?? Remember how I also said they aren't assigned like you seem to think, but are there of their own will and are paid directly by the State Department, and report to the Regional Security officer. Well this might be an unbelievable shocker to you, but it's the same thing in Afghanistan, and it's the same way in Europe, and South America, and everywhere else on the damn planet. Once you realize that you may understand or realize these are normal, average, everyday Afghans that got wild and had a ridiculous party and took pictures like jackasses. Omg, the world is coming to an end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Reminds me of something

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    Small party. Big butthurt.
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