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    Default Was the American War of Independence a real war?

    Just clearing something up.

    Okay. This thread is an attempt to prove this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizav85 View Post
    If im not mistaken the british were tottaly raping america in the revolution (It wasnt a war). It was the french that changed things. Instead of fighting the english colonists. (Yes USA wasnt a country untill after the war , All the people in america were legaly classed as english colonists). We stopped our campaigns and began fighting the french and tried to stop americans aiding them against us.

    And while that was happening most of our Naval fleet was in England for defence against invasion. The other English forces were micro managing a world empire and on there way to controlling 25% of earths land mass and population of earth which would be complete in 1900

    After the revolution ended English destroyed the french navy in Carribean and regained all of its naval supremecy. And then america invaded canada and canada and england pushed them out followed by english invading east coast and controlling maine and burning down the white house.

    americans lost more men , more ships and more territory. They were again screwed. When the rest of the Royal navy and army reached the east coast you were doomed, had already lost washington and baltimore.

    So you wanted peace and signed a treaty. We gave you back your lands and left for the simple reason we made more money trading with you than controlling the colonies at the time. If the english army and navy stayed americans would of been annihilated and no french would have turned up to help either because we had just annihilated there navy.

    To put it simply english lost that war as much as americans lost vietnam. the war of 1812 that is. American revolution was not a war. Only americans call it a war.
    To be wrong (the part where he says it wasn't a war)
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    Default Re: Was the American War of Independence a real war?

    Yes..

    It was an intrastate war at first, then an inter-state war.
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    yay, point proven.
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    Didn't begin as a real war, but once the US began fielding a proper army it evolved from armed resistance into legitimate war.

    For point of comparison, The Troubles in N.Ireland couldn't have been called a war because the IRA never put to field combat formations to contest British Army control over the country, they were simply armed resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Didn't begin as a real war, but once the US began fielding a proper army it evolved from armed resistance into legitimate war.

    For point of comparison, The Troubles in N.Ireland couldn't have been called a war because the IRA never put to field combat formations to contest British Army control over the country, they were simply armed resistance.
    You don't need line units for it to be a real war. There are many forms of war, both conventional and non-conventional.

    Besides, the US had line units since the first day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Didn't begin as a real war, but once the US began fielding a proper army it evolved from armed resistance into legitimate war.
    it did not begin as a real war? I guess the initial months of fighting were just what ? bar room brawls?

    bunker hill?



    The revolutionary war is a war just as the same as the Boer war was a war. Just because one side consists largely of civilians without a standing military who fight unconventially, against a superior force does not mean its not a war.



    how about the zulu?

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    What would be a fake war, then? One where people get flowers and chocolates instead of bullets in the head?

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    If you want to start a discussion about Ireland, go somewhere else, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Keene-Inglethorpe-Dempsey 3rd View Post
    If you want to start a discussion about Ireland, go somewhere else, please.
    Where did I mention Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    Where did I mention Ireland?
    Where did i mention you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Keene-Inglethorpe-Dempsey 3rd View Post
    Where did i mention you?
    Well, I am Irish, a fact quite well displayed in my signature. Suspicion would naturally fall on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Keene-Inglethorpe-Dempsey 3rd View Post
    If you want to start a discussion about Ireland, go somewhere else, please.
    YES RUIRE.

    God dammit all you ever go on about is fair Eire.
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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    ah, now we will prove to Wizav

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    Hm, a lot of shooting, killing, armies and battles. If it wasn't a war, what was it, a diesel locomotive?
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    Hehe that's the idea!
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    wut's a fake war?
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    We win, he loses again
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    A war where no fighting takes place?

    *shakes fist at Tiberius*
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Edward III View Post
    A war where no fighting takes place?
    The cold war

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraStallone View Post
    The cold war
    Korea, Vietnam etc
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