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    Why can't Dave and Gordon learn a few lessons from Britain's most gloriously un-PC supermayor

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    By his own admission, Peter Davies would make a dreadful Foreign Secretary. Aside from the fact that he has never been in a plane and has been abroad only once (a four-day break to Paris in 1988), diplomacy is not his forte.

    This is, after all, a man who proudly proclaims his contempt for 'diversity'.

    So the week after next it is going to be interesting when Mr Davies welcomes a delegation of German VIPs on an all-expenses-paid visit to his home town - and tells them not to bother coming back.

    'I have only two words of German: "Auf" and "Wiedersehen", ' he says. 'But those are the only words I need.'

    And no one is going to stop this proud Yorkshireman. To the shock and dismay of many local councillors and MPs, most of Westminster and the entire Government, the assiduously straight-talking Mr Davies has just become one of the most powerful politicians in Britain.

    To make things worse, he did so while a member of one of its tiniest parties, the English Democrats. And to cap it all, his first act was to slash his own pay by 60 per cent.

    Less than three months ago, by a narrow margin, this retired schoolmaster was unexpectedly elected executive mayor of the once impregnable - and famously corrupt - Labour citadel of Doncaster. Imagine a Socialist Worker mayor in Surrey and you get the picture.

    Executive mayors were a Blairite wheeze to rejuvenate clapped-out, inner-city town halls by creating all-powerful civic superstars (preferably cronies of Tony). Only a handful of cities voted for the idea, though.

    The best-known is the Mayor of London, though his powers are by far the weakest. The capital was deemed too important for a single mayoral ego so that post, occupied by Boris Johnson, is largely promotional, with appointing, ribbon- cutting and Olympic finger buffets thrown in.

    In the provinces, though, the 11 other executive mayors reign like medieval princes.

    'Boris? He's a eunuch,' scoffs Mr Davies, who chooses and supervises a cabinet that controls education, transport, social services and pretty much everything else across his domain. And with a quarter of a million people, Doncaster is by far the biggest of these fiefdoms.

    That is why Mr Davies matters. He has made a punchy start which, if replicated nationwide, would lead to public sector bedlam. The question is who should be most worried about his success: Labour or the Tories? Because his message threatens both.

    Within a week of his election, Mr Davies had slashed his own salary from £73,000 to £30,000, scrapped the mayoral limousine and abolished the council's free newspaper.

    He has written to the Electoral Commission asking them to scrap two-thirds of Doncaster's 63 council seats in order to save the town £800,000 a year.

    'If Pittsburgh can manage with nine councillors, why do we need 63?' he asks. 'They each get a basic salary of £12,590 and we have only eight council meetings a year anyway.'

    Deeply sceptical of 'green claptrap', he must be the only mayor in Britain who wants more traffic in his town. He says it will boost business and has just announced plans for more parking spaces and an end to bus-only routes. 'Like it or not, we live in the age of the car,' he says.

    He wants to cut all 'non-jobs' in his 13,500 workforce - such as platinum-pensioned 'community cohesion officers' - and aims to shrivel future pay deals for council executives.

    Much as he likes his chief executive, Paul Hart, he says his £175,000 salary is 'a joke' and that any successor can expect half.

    'Don't believe that stuff about "having to pay the best to get the best". It's arrant nonsense - look what it did to the City,' he says.

    And he is in the process of 'de-twinning' Doncaster from its five twin towns around the world. Twinning, he says, is all about free holidays for councillors and their staff. On taking office, he was amazed to discover that the council had agreed to pay a £2,800 hotel bill during next month's St Leger race meeting at the local racecourse.

    The money is for entertaining councillors from Herten, Doncaster's (soon-to-be-ex) twin town in Germany. It was too late to cancel the reservations, but Mr Davies will ensure the exercise is not repeated.

    'Racing happens to be my passion, but I don't expect the taxpayer to fund it,' he says.

    While these preliminary cuts may be local government heresy, what has really marked out Mr Davies for liberal opprobrium is his gratuitously provocative assault on what he calls 'the culture of political correctness'.

    He has scrapped all future funding for Doncaster's annual Gay Pride event. 'I'm not a homophobe, but I don't see why council taxpayers should pay to celebrate anyone's sexuality,' he says.

    He has scrapped funding for council translation services on the grounds that people should be encouraged to learn English. And he has scrapped the word 'diversity' from his list of cabinet portfolios.


    'Going on about diversity causes racial tension, it doesn't improve it,' he says. 'The Government has just admitted that gipsies should be given special treatment and that only makes people angry. I want every citizen of Doncaster to be equal.'

    Mr Davies is certainly setting himself up for demonisation - by Labour, Tory and Liberal alike. And the twice-married father-of-three hasn't even hit the 100-day mark. His critics are quiet for now, but I dare say Labour HQ has recruited a team of smear merchants to trawl through his past and his bins. He certainly speaks his mind, which is always a godsend for enemy spin doctors.

    Here's Davies on climate change: 'I'm not green and I'm not conned by global warming.'

    On women in the workplace: 'Why do we expect pregnant women to work?'

    On council affiliations: 'I don't want to join things; I want to unjoin them.'

    After expressing his support for an English History Day, he received a chummy email from a woman claiming to be a former pupil trying to lure him into saying something racist about Black History Month.

    'She turned out to be a fake and I'm no racist,' says Mr Davies. Besides, it was hardly the ideal way of contacting the mayor. He does not use a computer - all his emails are printed out by his staff.

    Mr Davies likes to call himself a maverick, but isn't he just a headline-grabbing populist?

    Having been elected because he is a non-politician and 'a breath of fresh air' (a recurring phrase among his supporters), won't he end up going native and claiming for mayoral duck houses? Or does he represent the start of a sea change in local, even national, politics?

    If a man well to the Right of the Tory leadership can capture a socialist pit town on Arthur Scargill's doorstep, anything is possible.

    Having come to Doncaster, I find a bluff, but canny operator sitting in a spectacularly drab Sixties office block that once housed the Coal Board. Mr Davies has attempted to cheer up his viewless office with three racing prints (his own), but without success.

    Much as his opponents will try, he is not easy to pigeonhole. He wants to slash costs, but he is not some asset-stripping suit from a big business background.

    He is a retired state employee who spent 30 years teaching religious studies. He hates the cult of 'diversity', but says he took his pupils to mosques, synagogues and temples to help them understand other faiths.

    A non-practising Anglican, he says he is attracted by certain tenets of Buddhism and believes the Taliban could teach us a thing or two about family values.

    'Who says we have the moral right to tell Afghan society how to live?' he says. 'Our troops should not be there.'

    Blimey. I can almost sense a touch of the George Galloways - until we turn to crime. He is a keen devotee of the birch and noose. The Doncaster-born son of a socialist butcher, Mr Davies was a Labour activist until 1973, when the rhetoric at a May Day rally drove him to the Conservatives.

    He supported that party for more than 20 years, until John Major signed up to the Maastricht Treaty, whereupon Mr Davies joined the UK Independence Party (UKIP).

    He says he soon tired of UKIP's infighting and 'hypocrisy', so moved to the lesser-known English Democrats because he was 'fed up with England being taken for a ride'.

    continued... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...diversity.html
    This guy almost gets it, almost. A person can oppose globalism without being proudly and wilfully ignorant and making a great show of snubbing a German trade delegation. This are all forms of self-sabotage.

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    He sounds like a bright man. Respect for his cutting of his own salary an needless expenses.

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    I kind of like this guy.... not out of agreement with his philosophy or ways....

    ....however I certainly agree with many of his reforms of local government. Local government, at least in Leeds, likes to peddle a lot of nonsense such as ''Equality ministers'' and other pointless irrelevance. His salary shouldn't have been cut. 72 grand for a full time Mayor is perfectly justified... but 175 grand, MORE THAN THE PRIME MINISTER OF GREAT BRITAIN, for a Local government executive is completely intolerable and unjustified.

    However other reforms... although I agree with on principle grounds, immigrants should learn English and ''non-jobs'' should be cut.... on pragmatic grounds one cannot simply cut translation services without replacing them with substantial English learning programs which would of course mean there is no cut but merely a transfer of resources, that would be the better thing to do. As for community cohesion officers... they may sound ridiculous but crime should always be fought on two fronts... the cohesion and community building and the tough disciplined police work. I also can't see the sense in scrapping the local Newspaper. We need all hands on deck in the fight against the Tabloids. Gay pride shouldn't be funded by the council at all, at least not in a recession, and neither should any other cultural or religious awareness festivals.

    And indeed, some of his social views, although he's saying what many are thinking, are a little bit counter productive. The Taliban doesn't believe in family, and it should be the very LAST thing for a politician to do than to discourage work, even if it is for pregnant women. Unless he's planning on pulling money out of his arse and doing a Nazi style bribe system to get women back at home in the Kitchen.

    However from a constitutional point of view I wonder whether investing so much local power in the hands of one man who was elected on an abysmal turnout of less than 30% is such a good idea for democracy and local Government. I want Mayors... but I want Local Councils to be miniature Westminster systems. With each local party having a leader who will act as a mini PM and become Mayor if his local party takes the majority of seats in the Council... and as is often the case in Local government, coalitions have to be forged more often, allowing for better accountability locally. However we can certainly benefit from fewer councillors. Perhaps not as little as he would like, but definitley fewer councillors.

    Fewer MPs too, mind you.


    But the article is incorrect in implying and assuming it is a big thing for this guy to be head of a heavily socialist area. From the sounds of him he is a traditional South Yorkshire guy, who were traditionally very conservative socially, but economically always looking out for the interests of the people and what benefits the people against the establishment. He left the Labour party at a time when it was transitioning to the modern version of Left wing SOCIAL politics, and his move to UKIP implies his politics doesn't revolve around Socialism and Economics but Social issues, and '''getting a good deal for the average John''. At least, that's my take on it. Also the Mayor Doncaster is not one of the biggest positions in the land, nor is it anyway NEAR as powerful as the London Mayor who resides over 12,000,00 people, more than the Scottish and Welsh and Irish governments put together, and a £10 billion budget.. who is portrayed in this article as a ceremonial role.

    Then again, it's the ing Mail.
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    Cheap populism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    Cheap populism.
    Yes I like how you backed up your argument. Isn't it the role of elected officials to govern in the opinion of the majority? Isn't that what Government is all about? If you're not been a populist, could you not argue that you're perhaps not doing your job or doing something wrong?

    This mayor obviously believes what he says. It is refreshing to see someone in politics who will actually speak their mind and say it how it is. It is probably why the likes of your Jeremy Clarkson is someone who a lot would like to see as UK Prime Minister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Yes I like how you backed up your argument. Isn't it the role of elected officials to govern in the opinion of the majority? Isn't that what Government is all about? If you're not been a populist, could you not argue that you're perhaps not doing your job or doing something wrong?

    This mayor obviously believes what he says. It is refreshing to see someone in politics who will actually speak their mind and say it how it is. It is probably why the likes of your Jeremy Clarkson is someone who a lot would like to see as UK Prime Minister.
    Populism is not following the majorities will in the sense your using it. Populism is the act on playing on the people's emotions through "Flash" policies (policies that have little real effect but look good in the papers, such as cutting your own salary) in order to gain power. It also uses imagery and rhetoric in order to impact the base emotions of people whether or not their is fact behind it.

    "Vote for me or the terrorists will kill you" is a populist move as is "My opponent is a Nazi, vote for me or democracy is gone." Other populist moves are paying for voters to attend soccer games, "redistribution of wealth," and Flash policies (see above).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Yes I like how you backed up your argument. Isn't it the role of elected officials to govern in the opinion of the majority? Isn't that what Government is all about?
    No, and No.

    It is refreshing to see someone in politics who will actually speak their mind and say it how it is. It is probably why the likes of your Jeremy Clarkson is someone who a lot would like to see as UK Prime Minister.
    Lots of politicians speak their mind. The problem is not whether or not they speak their mind... but rather if the thing on their mind which they are speaking is very appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OP
    (...)and tells them not to bother coming back.

    'I have only two words of German: "Auf" and "Wiedersehen"
    "Auf wiedersehen" means something like "until we meet again"

    Apparently the daily mail knows even less German than Peter Davies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    Cheap populism.
    Cutting your own pay isn't cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Isn't it the role of elected officials to govern in the opinion of the majority? Isn't that what Government is all about? If you're not been a populist, could you not argue that you're perhaps not doing your job or doing something wrong?
    No, it's the elected officials role to govern the way they think is best.
    It is the role of the elections to decide which candidate reflects the opinion of the majority the best.

    Populism leads to shortsighted policies and unrealistic promises.
    A good government can't keep the people happy all the time, they sometimes have to make decisions that are unpopular on the short term but better on the long term.

    This mayor obviously believes what he says.
    In which case he isn't a populist.

    A populist adjusts his opinion to what is popular, therefore he will often say things he doesn't believe in but thinks will earn him more votes.

    Quote Originally Posted by bushbush View Post
    and who will introduce those policy to people? you will still need PR for new school, new infrastructure, new benefits, new healthcare for people to understand how to use them properly to achieve your intended policy effects and make the bucks bang! Government at the end of the day is a corporation that produces services for people. And services need to be advertised like all corporations.

    see? your perception of how government works is not reality.
    In my experience, officials often say they want to cut back government jobs and bureaucracy, but 9/10 times fail to do so.

    I think it's best to have a wait and see attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    Cheap populism.
    Sometimes populism isnt cheap nor is it wrong or bad, especially if it results in actual changes. Minus the we can learn a thing or two from the Taliban about family values comment (though I have no idea of the context of the snippet) and his outright dismissal of global warming (I fall in the middle on the issue, let non political motivated science address the issue on either side) Id like him if he was an american politican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Sometimes populism isnt cheap nor is it wrong or bad, especially if it results in actual changes. Minus the we can learn a thing or two from the Taliban about family values comment (though I have no idea of the context of the snippet) and his outright dismissal of global warming (I fall in the middle on the issue, let non political motivated science address the issue on either side) Id like him if he was an american politican.
    actual changes as to please the crowd or actually doing something that's good for the country? that's a huge difference.

    ex:

    classic populist mob pleaser
    "IMPRISON people for as long as possible for as minimal a crime as possible" "tough on crime"

    result: overcrowded prisons becoming crime universities; crime rates actually stay high.

    is that positive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushbush View Post
    actual changes as to please the crowd or actually doing something that's good for the country? that's a huge difference.
    Good for the country its why I said populism isnt always a bad thing, sometimes it IS right. As long as he sticks to issues like cutting goverment bloat I see no problem with that brand of populism. Outright dismissal of global warming I have a problem with because as far as Im concerned the issue is far from a settled one on either side of the "debate" (which is being kind to the crap that is flung by both sides). Plus things like bus only routes seems counterproductive to me but no politician is perfect or is right on everything. Obviously seeking to only please the crowd is stupid and dangerous but there are alot of issues the masses arent wrong imo.

    Clearly tossing mass amount of people into jail in a crack down on crime without addressing the added and necessary cost of jailing them which is never popular among tax payers is idiotic populism since it isnt a real solution. Cutting a bloated cabinet down though is. Im basing my view on the statements from the op article, on paper what he is saying sounds fine to me but whether in practice he is serious dunno nor do I have to worry about it not living there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Good for the country its why I said populism isnt always a bad thing, sometimes it IS right. As long as he sticks to issues like cutting goverment bloat I see no problem with that brand of populism. .
    indiscriminate cutting in the style of raging bull in a china shop is good for the country? I don't know man. For one thing, i know people working for him will hate his ass from now on, i bet they will do a real half-ass work to implement policy, and any real talents wanna join him? i doubt that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    Cheap populism.

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    I like the sound of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebusitanus View Post
    This guy almost gets it, almost. A person can oppose globalism without being proudly and wilfully ignorant and making a great show of snubbing a German trade delegation. This are all forms of self-sabotage.
    Or perhaps he's just a bit of a tit........

    He's not actually against globalism, his time in UKIP and a tory son should tell you that! He's just good at using (well deserved) anti-globalisation sentiment for populism.
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    Where does it say he is anti-Globalism? The English Democrats are right wing free marketeers unlike all the other god-forsaken Nationalist parties on these Isles.

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    I love this guy thank god himself someone still has common sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Where does it say he is anti-Globalism? The English Democrats are right wing free marketeers unlike all the other god-forsaken Nationalist parties on these Isles.


    I'll think you'll find it was Ebusitanus who originally made the comment about Globalism.

    Secondly this has nothing to do with the English Democrats. Peter Davies is a political whore who's been in more parties than most guys have women......

    His success was in the fact he was left alone by the ED leadership to get on with it and the fact he is a career politician and well known in the area.


    And how many times have we been over this and the ED's association with National Socialists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syron View Post
    I'll think you'll find it was Ebusitanus who originally made the comment about Globalism.
    It was a general question, not one aimed at you.

    Secondly this has nothing to do with the English Democrats. Peter Davies is a political whore who's been in more parties than most guys have women......
    Hey, just like the BNP!

    I kid, I kid, lets not go into that.

    (But seriously, just like the BNP)

    His success was in the fact he was left alone by the ED leadership to get on with it and the fact he is a career politician and well known in the area.
    I think his obscene promises of culling the number of politicians, scrapping half the government and cutting his own salary rang true with those 25% that voted in the wake of the expense scandal.

    And how many times have we been over this and the ED's association with National Socialists?
    Never? Seriously, I don't remember this. I'm just going by their manifesto.


    Anyway, I'd DEFINITELY like to hear about the ED's links with the BNP. I hate all the Nationalist parties which have made the splitting up of the UK their orgasmic dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    It was a general question, not one aimed at you.
    His populist policies seem anti-globalism (if they were i'd support them), but they're not really.

    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Hey, just like the BNP!

    I kid, I kid, lets not go into that.

    (But seriously, just like the BNP)
    I'm sorry, the BNP have been in many parties?

    I think you mean some individuals and no, the few old ones that survive are from just one, the NF.


    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    I think his obscene promises of culling the number of politicians, scrapping half the government and cutting his own salary rang true with those 25% that voted in the wake of the expense scandal.
    No doubt, but this isn't ED policy per se........


    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Never? Seriously, I don't remember this. I'm just going by their manifesto.


    Anyway, I'd DEFINITELY like to hear about the ED's links with the BNP.


    More like the lovely EFP or "England First Party", basically neo-nazi's.



    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    I hate all the Nationalist parties which have made the splitting up of the UK their orgasmic dream.
    So you don't hate the BNP then?

    The ED's don't want to split up the UK either actually, they campaign for an English parliament but what they don't tell you is they want it to be subservient to Westminster, not replace it. They're not even that English Nationalist!
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