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    JP226's Avatar Dux Limitis
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    Default An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

    Did the 54th Mass turn the tide? Not in the sense that they physically won anything but the encouragement of Black troops in the ranks providing the umphf the Union needed in surpressing the South.
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    Default Re: An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

    Are you joking with the title?
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    Default Re: An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

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    Are you joking with the title?
    Are you talking about the name "War of Northern Aggression?"

    That name was used here in the South as propaganda during and after the war.

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    Default Re: An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

    The war was always the Norths to lose. The North had more money, more food, more people, more industry and international recognition.
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    I wouldn't say THEY turned the tide, nor did blacks, but it certainly helped. Letting blacks in sure freed up a lotta space for other units to go fight on the front (a lot of the black units were still kept away from the front for racist reasons)
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    Default Re: An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

    If any one event turned the tide it would be Seward's handling of the Trent Affair. After that there was very little chance of foreign intervention which was the south's best hope for winning the war so it was really just a matter of time. Regiments of blacks didnt appear in large numbers until late in the war when it was more or less already decided.

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    Default Re: An interesting question for the Civil War buffs, aka the War of Northern Aggression

    I'm with Farnan on this on. The 54th Massachusetts did not turn the tide because there really was not a tide to turn. The only real advantage I can think of that the South possessed was superior battlefield leadership, particularly at the crucial opening phase of the war. But in any case, that has historicaly been shown to only get you so far anyways.
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