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    Default Muslim Europe in 50 years?

    What do you guys think about what will happen to Europe in 50+ years?

    Take a look at this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THW7jgSIXPM

    Some of you may say, "well this is just some BS video that half is not even true". Well I actually have been doing some research for the past 3 hours on the Muslim rise in Europe, and a lot of the facts in the video are true believe it or not, you can check yourself s.

    Now please don't get the idea that I hate Muslims or something, only reason I do not like is the fact is it may destroy a lot of Europe future and background, and I would also like to know everyone opinion on this.

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    Every crackpot "Islam is taking over Europe" idea that has appeared in these forums have been comprehensively debunked - taking some 'facts' and figures, and extropolating them to an absurd degree without reference to the context of those figures (the modern phenomenon of immigration to the developed world) is a very flawed sociological model.

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    Just cause there's been growth in Muslims in Europe recently doesn't mean it's going to continue growing at the current rate. That's what I hate about these "studies" they don't throw in factors that could knock it off course, which always happens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DekuTrash View Post
    Just cause there's been growth in Muslims in Europe recently doesn't mean it's going to continue growing at the current rate. That's what I hate about these "studies" they don't throw in factors that could knock it off course, which always happens.

    And you want to tell me how it will stop? Tell the Muslims to please stop having babies and if they don't arrest them?

    I know that the french government has persuaded a lot of french white women to try having more babies, but lets face it..for the french women to try to catch up with the Muslim's they would have to turn into whores and have babies for the rest of their lives.

    And they do not throw in these factors because it is probably not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleD View Post
    And you want to tell me how it will stop? Tell the Muslims to please stop having babies and if they don't arrest them?

    I know that the french government has persuaded a lot of french white women to try having more babies, but lets face it..for the french women to try to catch up with the Muslim's they would have to turn into whores and have babies for the rest of their lives.

    And they do not throw in these factors because it is probably not going to happen.
    Your logic sounds like you are a 15 year old or younger. Im just saying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Your logic sounds like you are a 15 year old or younger. Im just saying.

    Ok, well I am 19yo to clear it up, and I don't care if it does sound like a "15 year old younger", it's just facts. And I thought a 15 year old younger would be something like this "OMG LOL YOU NOOB U R WRONG LOL"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleD View Post
    And you want to tell me how it will stop? Tell the Muslims to please stop having babies and if they don't arrest them?

    I know that the french government has persuaded a lot of french white women to try having more babies, but lets face it..for the french women to try to catch up with the Muslim's they would have to turn into whores and have babies for the rest of their lives.

    And they do not throw in these factors because it is probably not going to happen.
    Being maried and having babies equals being a whore for you?

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    Yes. It's very realistic. In fact, this is an accurate depiction of how the last bastion of Christian Europe in Norway is overrun in 2049 by the Mohammedan hordes.


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    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.
    You must admit all that sand there must be quite annoying.
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    Don't believe it, and i certainly hope it's not true. There's already a muslim here, not too far from my town who has been asking for an independent country in Belgium just for muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.
    I have nothing against Muslims but i think it somthing to do with the fact there contrys are wartorn and shite (usually muslim wars ironically)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymurphy88 View Post
    I have nothing against Muslims but i think it somthing to do with the fact there contrys are wartorn and shite (usually muslim wars ironically)
    Too bad, deal with your own crap in your own country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.
    Yea, and why didn't all the Indo-Europeans stay in Central Asia and leave Europe to its real inhabitants, the Basques?

    Now if you want to limit immigration do so, but don't treat non-white Christian-heritage citizens as second-class either and threaten to deport them (despite being born there and living there their entire lives).


    Oh and so you know Christianity is as Middle Eastern as Islam. Bethleham is not in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.

    Now that is just stupid. Why did people leave their countires. Looking for work. Avoiding dictators.


    They do not demand Mosques. they ask for the planning permission like everyone else and they get it. Burkhas have no effect on anyone apart from the woman wearing them. Calm down and rethink your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adhamh Ashashi View Post
    Now that is just stupid. Why did people leave their countires. Looking for work. Avoiding dictators.


    They do not demand Mosques. they ask for the planning permission like everyone else and they get it. Burkhas have no effect on anyone apart from the woman wearing them. Calm down and rethink your posts.
    Islam has been very acommodating and well integrated into European culture! just remember to ignore women "falling" to their death in rosengard, men in england getting acid poured down their throats, multiple "honor" killings across Europe, riots in Sweden and France by youths, rapings by more "youths"! I could go on and talk about Muslims beheading orphange workers in somalia and the other great things they offer the world but then what would have to look forward to (the jizyah maybe!)? I mean i can barely contain my excitement for islamic immigration!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhuman One View Post
    what the **** are they all coming to Europe for though? let them stay at their own countries instead of migrating to Europe and then making all kinds of weird demands like wanting to have mosques, wear burka's and all that crap.

    Let them just stay in their own country where they already have all that, there is no valid reason for them to all just move to Europe.
    Heh. Try saying that about the Jews or Gypsies.
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Concerning the Netherlands, the video makes a grave mistake there. We should not mixup non-western immigrants and Muslim immigrants. It would take a hundred years for the Netherlands to reach a 20 percent Islamic population. 1 out of 5!


    ..yes, and then? It wouldn't matter either way. It's called cultural assimilation. It would be a grave mistake to believe that Muslims in 100 years will be exactly the same as Muslims now.

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