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    By the Christian Post:
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    Somali Islamic extremists beheaded four Christians recently after kidnapping them last month, according to eyewitness accounts reported to International Christian Concern (ICC .Members of the Islamic extremist organization Al-Shabaab had kidnapped Fatima Sultan, Ali Ma'ow, Sheik Mohammed Abdi, and Maaddey Diil on July 27 from their coastal town of Merca, 56 miles from Mogadishu, and eventually beheaded the Christians after they refused to renounce their faith in Jesus Christ.
    The four Christians had been working for a local NGO that helps orphans in southern Somalia.
    "Al-Shabaab has once again demonstrated its utter disregard for the dignity of human life,” commented Jonathan Racho, ICC's Regional Manager for Africa and the Middle East, after receiving news of the beheadings. “It is high time for the international community to take robust measures to end the heinous crimes that Al-Shabaab and other extremist groups are committing against the people of Somalia."
    According to one eye witness account, all four of the “apostates” were given an opportunity to return to Islam and to be released “but they all declined the generous offer."
    When they refused, all four were beheaded for apostasy and news of their deaths was passed along to their families on Aug. 4 by a junior Al-Shabaab militant who called himself "Seiful Islam" ("the Sword of Islam").
    Then militant described the Christians as promoters of "fitna," a Muslim term for religious discord.
    He also told the families that the bodies will not be given to them "as Somalia does not have cemeteries for infidels," according to a report received by the ICC.
    A Somali church leader who monitors the persecution against the Somali Church described the latest beheadings as a desperate attempt to "purify" Somalia by eliminating all Christians from what the Al Qaeda linked terror group considers an Islamic Republic.
    The church leader told ICC that such murders will only serve as a rich seedbed from where many more house-churches will form.
    Though Islamists in Somalia have been known for carrying out ruthless attacks against the country's Christian minority, the majority of Muslims in Somalia are also the "victims of Al-Shabaab's cruelty," said ICC’s Racho in his organization’s report of the latest incident.
    “[They] do not support their ideology or practices,” he added.
    According to ICC, Al-Shabaab is a radical Islamic organization fighting to establish an Islamic state in Somalia and enforce Wahhabi/Salafi Islam, an ultra-conservative interpretation of Islam practiced by the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
    The Islamist group controls large parts of Somalia and seeks to overthrow the internationally recognized transitional federal government of Somalia.
    Last year alone, members of the group killed more than a half dozen Somali Christians, and last month, Al-Shabaab beheaded seven people in the southwestern town of Baidoa after accusing them of converting to Christianity and spying for the transitional federal government of Somalia.
    Al-Shabab has been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the United States Department of State. It's also described as a terrorist organization by the Norwegian Police Security Service and the Swedish Security Service.
    I know that these people who do this terrible act are extremists (just like the talibans), but my question is: how come that Islam is good at creating and having all these extremists? Is it a coincedence?
    And no Im not a christian, Im an atheist.
    Last edited by Monarch; August 29, 2009 at 08:08 AM.

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    When a person is poor or hungry, they have two options. Strave to death or join the one who gives them food/pays them. Guess which one the poor people choose? To fight this mentality of 3rd world nations, education, jobs and family life are highly important in the game to protect and destory influences like these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shahanshah of Pakistan View Post
    When a person is poor or hungry, they have two options. Strave to death or join the one who gives them food/pays them. Guess which one the poor people choose? To fight this mentality of 3rd world nations, education, jobs and family life are highly important in the game to protect and destory influences like these.
    Many people down there is hungry. And I don't think beheading Christian orphanage workers give them food I am afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shahanshah of Pakistan View Post
    When a person is poor or hungry, they have two options. Strave to death or join the one who gives them food/pays them. Guess which one the poor people choose? To fight this mentality of 3rd world nations, education, jobs and family life are highly important in the game to protect and destory influences like these.
    I suppose this was done because they were poor and in the 3rd world too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    I suppose this was done because they were poor and in the 3rd world too..

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    Think I missed the part in the Qur'an where it says Murder Children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-D Ron View Post
    Think I missed the part in the Qur'an where it says Murder Children?
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-D Ron View Post
    Think I missed the part in the Qur'an where it says Murder Children?
    Don't remember that chapter and verse. The heck are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amry View Post
    Don't remember that chapter and verse. The heck are you talking about?
    That bit was okay, because if you understood the events surrounding the particular verse you'd realize that it was fully justified. Plus, you don't speak Arabic like the experts so your opinion fails.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amry View Post
    Don't remember that chapter and verse. The heck are you talking about?
    Just pointing out the differences between Nationalist Thugs that Claim to be Religious speakers and those that have actually read the Qur'an and know what it says and Beheading Christian Children in a School, I'm safe to say is NOT in the Qur'an.

    It's like the KKK saying they represent Christianity when in fact most Christians would find their views disgusting.
    Easy for people these days to see a Crime and slap a Muslim Sticker on them as if it makes it any more substantial.
    Like a Paedophile Priest, we don't take the religion he supports into account, just the guys mental behaviour, even though there is nothing in the Bible that Condemns Paedophilia.
    Last edited by 2-D Ron; August 31, 2009 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shahanshah of Pakistan View Post
    When a person is poor or hungry, they have two options. Strave to death or join the one who gives them food/pays them. Guess which one the poor people choose? To fight this mentality of 3rd world nations, education, jobs and family life are highly important in the game to protect and destory influences like these.
    Then of course, if the country doesn't exist and the only jobs in town are either join the warlords to rape, plunder and loot or join the pirates to brave the seas, hijack foreing ships and demand ransom for the return of those ships and their crews.

    Some choice.

    No, the correct thing would have been to destroy all warlords who wouldn't agree to the creation of a state, then have the state create the foundations for a proper society to be built upon. This would have created jobs and all the good things that a state can and does provide for its citizens.

    Then again this isn't what happened in Somalia. This is warlords' country, and just isn't a country any more.
    Guess what? It was those warlords who organized the abduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shahanshah of Pakistan View Post
    When a person is poor or hungry, they have two options. Strave to death or join the one who gives them food/pays them. Guess which one the poor people choose? To fight this mentality of 3rd world nations, education, jobs and family life are highly important in the game to protect and destory influences like these.
    Agreed and + rep although i can't

    but seriously look at the source of this "news" i know in threads against america evry link even if that was a christian web site or aome impartial was rejected by some american hawks by saying that this is anti-america site and they are lying but here, Christian post o my God! is this a joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudo Intellectual View Post
    Agreed and + rep although i can't

    but seriously look at the source of this "news" i know in threads against america evry link even if that was a christian web site or aome impartial was rejected by some american hawks by saying that this is anti-america site and they are lying but here, Christian post o my God! is this a joke?
    Well seeing as the OP is banned now, I think it is safe to say, yes.

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    Buddhist and Christians behead Orphanage workers all the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick1191 View Post
    Buddhist and Christians behead Orphanage workers all the time!
    I think people may have cottoned on to the idea that this specific incident did not take place. Read the thread.
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    I'd rather strave to death lol, I can see shanananana's point if you look at other poor countries around the world they usually have militant groups who prey on the poor but the question is this in a poor african country a militant group fights for power however in a poor muslim country the militants fight to kill the infidel. why does islam give rise to more religious fantic militants than anyother religion. the poorness is the variable that stays the same the relgions and motives change from place to place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanman View Post
    I'd rather strave to death lol, I can see shanananana's point if you look at other poor countries around the world they usually have militant groups who prey on the poor but the question is this in a poor african country a militant group fights for power however in a poor muslim country the militants fight to kill the infidel. why does islam give rise to more religious fantic militants than anyother religion. the poorness is the variable that stays the same the relgions and motives change from place to place.
    Where is the Christian fanatic militants? Enlighten me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarch View Post
    Where is the Christian fanatic militants? Enlighten me
    In before someone mentions the handful of abortion doctor killers as the moral equivalent to Islamic terror.
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    My shameful truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarch View Post
    Where is the Christian fanatic militants? Enlighten me
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
    http://www.christianaggression.org/i...&id=1130562765

    Wish granted. Just Google ''evil Christians'' and you'll get tons of sites by over-emotional Atheists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
    http://www.christianaggression.org/i...&id=1130562765

    Wish granted. Just Google ''evil Christians'' and you'll get tons of sites by over-emotional Atheists.
    Well the first one was more a history lesson, the second one wasn't to impressive compared to Islam...
    Anyway thankyou..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
    http://www.christianaggression.org/i...&id=1130562765

    Wish granted. Just Google ''evil Christians'' and you'll get tons of sites by over-emotional Atheists.
    i love the canadian group "The Sons of Freedom, a sect of Doukhobor anarchists, have protested nude, blown up power pylons, railroad bridges, and set fire to homes, often targeting their own property.[5]"


    Hard core terrorists!

    dont forget about the russian CHRISTIAN terrorists

    "
    Many Russian political and paramilitary groups combine racism, nationalism, and Russian Orthodox beliefs.[30][31] Russian National Unity, a far right ultra-nationalist political party and paramilitary organization, advocates an increased role for the Russian Orthodox Church according to its manifesto. It has been accused of murders, and several terrorist attacks including the bombing of the US Consulate in Ekaterinburg.[30][32]


    half of these are gone and the other half are political parties, dumb list.

    the other site hasnt been updated since 2005! damn these christian terrorist groups are so pervasive!
    Christianity has NO active terrorists groups, how many does islam have?
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