High Elves Strategy

[TheDumb]

Hello everyone,

So I am starting new HE vh/vh campaign. Because I dont want to start new one after 50-100 turns pls advice me how should I proceed. Currently I'm around Turn 40, OotMM lost half of their settlements, and I will need like 20-25 turns to move North and take rest of them. Anyway Isen win extremely fast vs Rohan and I am scared I cant aid them on time if I continue my raid on MM orcs. Can you please help me with setting up my priorities in correct order? Rebels/OotMM/Isen or Rebels/Isen/OotMM?

Regards and thanks in advance,
TheDumb

[HinkeFussJoe]

Nearly the same here. Turn 60, MM-orcs nearly killed. Gondor has been wiped out, Mordor took Edoras. Dwarfes attacked Eriador and Silvan Elves. :o I took Isengard and am currently trying to take 2 more towns of Isen.
To sum it up: I'm quite ed up. ^^

// but to your concern: reduce ur army in the north by half ( if u got a full stack) and send them downwards. There meet up with a new built second half-stack. Then attack Isen and fortify there. May be, for the defence of your homeland you can send some 5-6-stack army to the bridge.

[OfficerJohn]

Surrender yourself to Mordor, against the Swine Flu Dark Lord there can be no victory!

Resistance is futile.

[Bela]

I do not tell you what to do, only can say you some things I usually do in this case:

First of all, I usually conquer Isengard and make a united Elven Kingdom there (connecting Imladris and my western provinces). Try conquering some Isengard territories first (starting from the west. From your 4 settlements there you can easily build up an army and can steamroll the Uruk-hai fellows. Don't forget to make alliance with the Dwarves first as they sometimes attack your back without warning!), then capture Fangorn as soon as possible (you can leave Isengard itself and return later on), and recruit Ents very fast! They cost 2000+ (if I'm right) but worth every cent of it! When having Ents, get back to Isengard, capture it, and stand against the uprising hordes of Isengard (two or three full stacks as long as I remember).
In the meanwhile garrison some units in Imladris (half a stack is more than enough) to defend yourself from the orcs. After destroying Isengard, you can pay attention for OotMM and Mordor also (usually in the meantime Dwarves do their job on the OotMM, so life will be easier.

But to answer your question: Rebels (are there rebel settlements after 50-100 turns around you??)/Isengard/ OotMM.

And welcome to the forums, mate!

[HinkeFussJoe]

First Isen and then OoTMM? Moria + Goblin town are cash-earner?! when I am at home tonight i'll post some screenshots.

// 2nd thought: On my last HE-game Gondor was crushed after ~30 turns on M/M. Will they survive longer on VH/VH?

[TheDumb]

kisbelaim thanks for answer. No there are not rebels near me... My question was in principle.... every campaign start with rebels and in my case i can go on 2 different ways isen or mm orcs... so now i will just defend my north territories and will attack isen.

btw you dont need to take any town to reqruit mercenaries... just go on land they are available, double left click your char and they appear in list... i think you can take them from there, aight...?

[Thrott]

First Isen and then OoTMM? Moria + Goblin town are cash-earner?! when I am at home tonight i'll post some screenshots.

They have a strong mining economy, make the most of it!

// 2nd thought: On my last HE-game Gondor was crushed after ~30 turns on M/M. Will they survive longer on VH/VH?

Well the AI battles dont change between M & VH so gondor will fall at a variety of times. In an Isen campaign they did well against Mordor whilst in a HE Mordor pretty much steam rolled them. Just hope they do well when your good

kisbelaim thanks for answer. No there are not rebels near me... My question was in principle.... every campaign start with rebels and in my case i can go on 2 different ways isen or mm orcs... so now i will just defend my north territories and will attack isen.

Personally i would take some OOTMM provinces for the money. Then you have weakened them enough for dwarfs to get to work on them and you can field a strong army against Isen.

[The Mouth of Sauron]

I dont know for u guys but with my HE i make all the money i need from the west settlements and have imladris as a big barracks.Me dwarves and eriador together crashed the ootmm

[Thrott]

I dont know for u guys but with my HE i make all the money i need from the west settlements and have imladris as a big barracks.Me dwarves and eriador together crashed the ootmm

What difficulty do you play on? On VH/VH i struggle to keep a profit in the earlier turns before a bit of town growth and grabbing a mine, by struggling i mean a 5 unit stack including general and some extra units at imraldis to protect from maraudign orc stacks... Also i'm talking from an RR/RC point of view so might be completely at odds to your experience

[Bela]

btw you dont need to take any town to reqruit mercenaries... just go on land they are available, double left click your char and they appear in list... i think you can take them from there, aight...?

You're right, you can recruit mercenaries without having the settlement, but you can retrain them only IN the town of Fangorn (and it's fun to defeat orc/Isengard armies with one ent and a few archer units + nevertheless your generals will get a very useful retinue in Fangorn (Ent draughts). Just spend there more than 3 turns)

[TheDumb]

Btw are you all with RC/RR submod? It change things alot... im not sure to keep it or to leave it...

[Momus]

ally with the dwarves, then move all your armies into the misty mts - take high pass, mountain fort and moria - provides a good barrier + income from mining then move into eregion and then take isengard up the trumpet and save rohan and gondor from mordor and isengard and then a huge rave and plenty of beers in barad dur by tea time

[The Mouth of Sauron]

Well,i was playing on vh (campaing only) and at turn 100 i had aroun 160 k.U must keep the west settlements with 4 forces and make only buildings for income,so imladris will produce muc harmy and 1 city alone cant produce army bigger than ur income.

[TheDumb]

Humm I think i lost control... I'm bigger in realm... but i didnt saved rohan on time... Gondor have 3 towns (2 are gift from me), Isen i am destroying now but i just cant produce so much units and to get them on front line.... Need to fight ex rohan and Gondor's territories on south and to keep good force east from MM coz my elfs brothers cant hold Mordor's push on them...

P.S. I just fought with 1 Olog and 1 troll catapult units in forest... lol they killed 1k of my men and die... but if there is general with 2-3 olog units i will get realy *d up... Why ist so hard...

[Momus]

cos life would be dull otherwise. and when you do win, it feels a lot better than it would do if it was easy

and the new bmw adverts about they making joy are complete bull they make dull executive saloons, alfa make fun cars

ok rant over.

and take out the catapults with your generals as soon as you can!

[TheDumb]

cos life would be dull otherwise. and when you do win, it feels a lot better than it would do if it was easy

and the new bmw adverts about they making joy are complete bull they make dull executive saloons, alfa make fun cars

ok rant over.

and take out the catapults with your generals as soon as you can!

yeah i have 1 or 2 catapults with each of 4 armies i march, only crazy sailsman i miss... just because im with negative economy again.... BTW do they come by sea? I mean if i push hard south should i expect them to come from sea or i will need to fortify only east side?

[Momus]

if harad are still kicking about yes but I have never seen mordor going for a bit of sailing so keep a half decent army down there to keep them busy if they do

[TheDumb]

MMM look at this nice financial overview after i put RR/RC submod... tasty!

[cherryfunk]

Do you think High Elves are unplayable with RC installed? I've tried a couple times and just can't make any money...

[TheDumb]

Cant say anything... Price for units are 2-4 time bigger, also upkeep, thats what i know. Also auto resolve battle now work... Me with 2k vs Mordor 2x3-4k and auto resolve I kill them all and lose like 200-300... Stats are extremely boosted (i believe its for all factions so its ok)... I should try new campaign to say is it ok or not