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    The US special envoy to Afghanistan has held an "explosive" meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai over the country's election, the BBC has learnt.
    Richard Holbrooke raised concerns about ballot-stuffing and fraud, by a number of candidates' teams, sources say.


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    Concerns have already been raised about Afghanistan's election, although final results are not due until September.
    A number of senior sources have confirmed the details of a meeting between Mr Holbrooke and Mr Karzai held on 21 August, one day after the election.
    The meeting was described as "explosive" and "a dramatic bust-up".
    Mr Holbrooke is said to have twice raised the idea of holding a second round run-off because of concerns about the voting process.


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    Mr Karzai reacted very angrily and the meeting ended shortly afterwards, the sources said.



    There have been many doubts raised about the Afghan presidential election, about the turnout and irregularities.
    But this is the first time that a leading Western official has apparently expressed it quite so openly.
    It will raise more questions about the credibility of the whole process and could well make the plan to establish a meaningful government in a stable country all the harder to achieve.




    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8225745.stm
    Frankly, i dont even know why they bothered with the election, the taliban are roaming about half the sodding country and where they arent, those oh so lovely warlords (which are karzai's bozum buddies) are. Then theres pakistan and yet more taliban territory with the capital islamabad in the crosshairs.

    Ugh, what a mess.
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    Apparently Karzai interpreted this meeting s the Americans demanding that he ''go to a second round''. Firstly, I certainly hope there was no talk of ''second round'' before the votes have even been counted as that is a sure admission on the American side that this election is a farce, and hence all of this war was for nothing... and secondly, that implies that Karzai already knows the result, and does not want a second round, which he would lose legitimately, and has the power to make that not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Apparently Karzai interpreted this meeting s the Americans demanding that he ''go to a second round''. Firstly, I certainly hope there was no talk of ''second round'' before the votes have even been counted as that is a sure admission on the American side that this election is a farce, and hence all of this war was for nothing... and secondly, that implies that Karzai already knows the result, and does not want a second round, which he would lose legitimately, and has the power to make that not happen.
    I wonder where all the self righteous outrage against the fraudulent election is in the West, and where is the color of solidarity with the people of Afghanistan?!
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    US puppet cheating, OMG !?!?!?
    I samo dotle, do tog kamena,do tog bedema,
    Nogom ces stupit, mozda poganom,drznes li dalje?...Cuces gromove
    Kako tisinu zemlje slobodne...Sa grmljavinom strasnom kidaju;
    Razumeces ih srcem strasljivim...Sta ti sa smelim glasom govore,
    Pa ces o stenja tvrdom kamenu
    Brijane glave teme celavo
    U zanosnome strahu lupati...
    Al' jedan izraz, jednu misao,
    Čućeš u borbe strašnoj lomljavi:
    "Otadžbina je ovo Srbina!..."

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    Default Re: US envoy 'in angry Karzai talks'

    "Explosive" meeting?

    You had me excited for a second there...

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    I don't know if it's his policies that is invoking the connection, or simply the phoenetic quality of his name, but I think of khazi (cockney (not rhyming) slang for toilet) whenever I hear it.

    Therefore I take special joy out of the thread title "US envoy in angry khazi talks".

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