Asking the help of researchers our team has, and the ones we are about to have.
The Pagan Kingdom faction needs some Eye-Catcher buildings for the Strat Map.
Something has already been done for this faction, I am sure, at least the city models.
of of other buildings I would have to say I am unaware, still we need more
Could the Research Department please provide us with pictures and names of Buildings that are:
-Eye Catchers(Special).
-From the Period of our mod. (around 1171 A.D.)
-Bigger format pictures than 640x480 please.
-There is no limit to the number of pictures, just when it becomes to much of a picture spam fest it might be better to give links to websites
-Spoiler Tags will come in handy
-Another thing which is very important is the location of the wonder. We don't want wonders to be packed in one area, while the rest remains empty, if you could find a map of the faction(country) and mark the wonder's location with a dot, that would be great.
Thanks are extended in advance, but may be repeated after your posts as well
Last edited by Wundai; August 28, 2009 at 01:58 PM.
I have been looking around for some wonders we could use for the Pagan faction. The things that spring to mind with this faction are of course; temples, stupa's stupa's and some more stupa's.
For that reason, I'll start with..........
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temples, gotcha, didn't I?
I basically found 2 temples which could be considered the most grand achievement of Pagan masonry. The first one is the tallest and biggest temple; The Thatbyinnu Temple 1150 - 1160(-ish) AD. This enormous construction, the tallest at Pagan, soars to 201 feet in height and its square plan enclosing four floors is the most complex among the 3,320 structures at Pagan.
The other temple is The Ananda, one of the largest and most imposing of the early Pagan temples is transitional between the Mon and the Burmese type. Built about 11l2 AD, it is the masterwork of King Kyanzittha. Perhaps not the tallest, but it was the most intensively used and a place for pilgrimmage. It contains two footprints of the Buddha (Buddhapada) carved into the top of a stone pedestal. It's also the most all-encompassing storehouse of sacred images at Pagan.
note: this is a pic of the recently guilded tower and stupa final
My personal choice would be Ananda for it's religious importance, and for it's location. As I understand the city of Pagan didn't have an outer perimeter wall. The Royal compound however did. From the maps I have seen, the Ananda temple was located just outside these walls, giving us the liberty with at least some historical accuracy to place it on the map next to the city. The stupa's will be in my next post some time tomorrow.
There are a lot of good possibilities for Pagan. In addition to the two listed above, I'd also suggest:
Shwezigon Pagoda
This pagoda was begun by the uniter of Pagan Anawratha and completed by Kyansittha in the early 12th Century. The importance of this temple lies in the fact that it housed a replica of the Tooth of the Buddha, received from the King of Ceylon as part of the religious relationship which helped Theravada Buddhism flourish. Naturally the steel chainlink fences and stalls outside in the photo would not have been there.
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All three of these are representative of the push towards Theravada Buddhism and the unification of the Burmese with the Mon and Pyu peoples. The only problem I can see is they are fairly close to one another, the two listed in fugazi's post being only hundreds of meters away.
Yes Augustus, I agree. I had that stupa/pagoda in my mind as well. The 2 temples I suggested are very close to each other. I would only take 1 of the 2, and then I would go for the Ananda tenple, it being the most important one wich houses the footsteps of Buddha. Plus the fact that you could argue for it to be placed just outside the city.
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some images that could be useful modeling the Shwezigon pagoda
I have found that there are some pagoda's who share the same name, but are nevertheless different sites. One of such is the Shwesandaw pagoda. There is one on the main Pagan site, which would be too close to the wonders we have. But there's another one in the city Pyay (guestimate around 250km south on the Irriwady). To make a distinction between the 2, the latter is sometimes called the golden Shwesandaw as it has (recently) been gilded, Shwesanda Paya or sunset Pagoda. The similarities between the 2 pagoda's who share the same name, is the housing of sacred hair, Shwesandaw means Golden Hair Relic. The one in Pyay houses 4 strains of Buddha's hair + 8 other relics. Therefore both these sites were places of pilgrimage. The Shwesandaw Paya Pagoda was built by King Anawrahta in 1057 A.D. Intersting is also that this pagoda is faced by a 10 storey big buddha, but further research is needes as to when it was built.
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Shwesandaw Paya (Pyay)
an intersting piture of the same pagoda before WWII; which shows that most recent pics not necesarily show a correct representation of the site in our timeframe.
And to make the distinction, one picture of the Shwesandaw on the Pagan site
All three of these are representative of the push towards Theravada Buddhism and the unification of the Burmese with the Mon and Pyu peoples. The only problem I can see is they are fairly close to one another, the two listed in fugazi's post being only hundreds of meters away.
I'ld like to add that the Ananda temple represents the transition between Mon/Pagan style temples perfectly. Pyay for that matter used to be the capital of the Pyu peoples, if I'm not mistaken. The Thatbyinnu Temple could eventually be represented on the battlemap in the capital for its awesomeness if modelers might feel the need to show off their skillz.
If it were up to me, I would go for the Shwezigon, Ananda and the Shwesandaw Paya in Pyay
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