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    Default Too many children?

    What's your opinion on the mothers who have 8+ kids? Should they be able to have that many?

    If you answered yes, how about if they can't support them, and need a TV channel to sponsor them to bring in the cash. How about then?

    I'm asking this because it seems to be getting more and more common(still uncommon).

    So, should they be able to have that many kids?

    Here's an on topic article: http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2...n-is-too-many/

    How Many Children is Too Many?



    By Lisa BelkinNadya Suleman has told her side of her story to Ann Curry, and I don’t feel the outrage I’d expected to feel. With her doctors, yes, but not with Suleman. For her I just feel sad. What I saw on the Today Show this morning was a woman with Angelina Jolie’s lips, and, one might extrapolate, her dream of a sprawling family. Her reason, Suleman told Curry, was she’d felt lonely and unloved as a child, and wanted to fill that void.
    As she tells the story, six embryos were transferred with each of her previous pregnancies. Four of those transfers resulted in a single baby. One resulted in twins. This final time though, the six embryos led to eight newborns, meaning she was never trying to have 14 children, she was trying to have seven, with a slight risk of eight, but knew going in that she would not selectively reduce should there be more.
    So let’s just talk about the seven or eight anticipated children. Eight children? When you have no income and just one pair of hands? When your goal in the first place was to give your kids the time and attention you didn’t get as a child? How do you give enough time and attention to eight — never mind 14?
    The question at the core of all this is how many is too many? It was a question explored by Kate Zernike yesterday in the Style section, in an article about the stigma parents of large families feel — the stares from strangers, the assumptions that they are some sort of “religious freaks.” A few of the families in the story had as many as a dozen kids, but most were feeling judged with five or six.
    So, public opinion, as judged from the talk shows and the blogosphere, says 14 is too many. And it feels like Nadya Suleman’s quest for her seventh was also too many. But five? How about four? Is there such a difference between four and five? Or five and six? Or the jump to seven? What’s one more, really? Then why do we feel so strongly?
    The “line” when you start examining it, is arbitrary. In China, where the law limits most families to one, a poll shows that 70 percent of women want two or more. (The fact that Chinese authorities released that poll earlier this year is seen as a hint that the law might change. Perhaps that has something to do with stories like this.)
    The “right” number seems to lie somewhere between China and Nadya Suleman. And each of us believes we know it when we reach it (and we know that it’s been crossed by someone else.) But on what do we base that belief? The ability to pay for the children? The limits on the attention they will receive? Is Suleman right when she tells Curry that people are judging her not because of the size of her brood but because she chose to have them as a single Mom? How many is too many, and who gets to decide?
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    Default Re: Too many children?

    They should be allowed to. You cannot predict effectively what a family would be able to support in 10 years. If they are unable to support the kids, they will either be put up for adoption (if the parents have an ounce of sanity) or they will be put in a shelter. Not the most favorable of things, but the only possible compromise.

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    Yeah they should be allowed to, but they should not do it.

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    If they want to they should be able to. Big families are awesome. However, if they know they can't support it, they should probably refrain.

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    I know of 2 couples with 8 and 7 kids, doing just fine.

    Don't be distracted by the nut jobs on tv.
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    One word: Condoms

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    One word: love.

    Children aren't always a bad thing.

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    I think that Nadia is a complete and utter idiot.

    "I was abused as a child, so I want children." lol WTF ?! Proof that every woman should be hit once by a man.

    Or multiple times.

    Considering that my cousin has six children and intends to have more; I see nothing wrong with it as he supports his family, but Nadia couldn't even do that. Hell she was living in her mother's basement.

    She deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
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    And there is the overpopulation to consider, having 8 kids dosen't exactly help.

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    Having that many child's is irresponsible at best.

    Now I don't mind anyone having an entire football team if you can provide every one of them with education, food, house, medical care until they reach their 20's.
    But for the most part large families are also poor families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraStallone View Post
    And there is the overpopulation to consider, having 8 kids dosen't exactly help.
    Not with us white folk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Not with us white folk.
    Don't understand what you wanted to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraStallone View Post
    Don't understand what you wanted to say
    As we know hes referring to the fact that the "white" population is declining because many people aren't having enough kids to fill the gaps, whether or no this is an actually problem the question has to be asked whats wrong with the "white" population disappearing of the face of the Earth, evolution at work no? what would be good, never happen though is if all the supposed Human races were to inter-bred to create the super human, resistant to all diseases.





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    I voted no under the assumption that you're discussing the idiot mothers who don't work, live off welfare and keep spitting out babies. If the family is capable of supporting that many kids, then I say let them. The that live off taxpayer money out of selfishness and idiocy deserve to have all their kids taken from them and their tubes tied.

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    No! No! Absolutely no!
    Earth cant support us as it is, the last thing we need is more babies! No one should have more than two kids, any thing higher is a crime against humanity.
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    We live in a free capitalist society... if she can get stupid media to give her lots of money to raise her kids away from the welfare state, all power to her!

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    Default Re: Too many children?

    Quote Originally Posted by PureInfantryWins View Post
    What's your opinion on the mothers who have 8+ kids? Should they be able to have that many?
    If they can support them, yes. If not, I'd advise against it.
    But, ultimately, it is the decision of the parent. None of my business.

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    If having eight kids gives me free health care like it does with that lady with eight kids, I'll be forcing my wife to have eight kids too.

    I mean, it should be a criminal offence to be giving money to an idiot that lives in the basement who decided she should go on a pregnancy frenzy.

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    media is society, what your reading now is media. because all things are perceived everything is therefore interpreted differently. and because if that different opinions are created and those opinions create media.
    words, pictures, films, products, patterns, graphics, advertisement, news, video games, plays, socialist newspapers, liberal newspapers, conservative newspapers, soapboxes. its all media and its all our fault.

    if we didnt have such an abundance of media there would be less human interaction, with less interaction there would be less relationships, and with less relationships there would be less children.
    it is also very important to note that families with lots of children who live on benefits start of piss poor in the first place. whay do they have so many children? because its there fundamental right as an organic being.
    and yes we should pay for the little s they squeeze out of themselves because the rest of country (which ever one you may be in) paid for us and our education and healthcare. its circular we were given to and now we give to. its the basis of our socio-capitalistic society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff.Spectre View Post
    media is society, what your reading now is media. because all things are perceived everything is therefore interpreted differently. and because if that different opinions are created and those opinions create media.
    words, pictures, films, products, patterns, graphics, advertisement, news, video games, plays, socialist newspapers, liberal newspapers, conservative newspapers, soapboxes. its all media and its all our fault.

    if we didnt have such an abundance of media there would be less human interaction, with less interaction there would be less relationships, and with less relationships there would be less children.
    it is also very important to note that families with lots of children who live on benefits start of piss poor in the first place. whay do they have so many children? because its there fundamental right as an organic being.
    and yes we should pay for the little s they squeeze out of themselves because the rest of country (which ever one you may be in) paid for us and our education and healthcare. its circular we were given to and now we give to. its the basis of our socio-capitalistic society.
    Whoa man, deep. I bow down before your mad social commentary skills that not only miss the point of the OP, but is also contradictory and incorrect.

    Look, when considering how many kids is too many, it really depends on the parents, whether they have the means to support the children and ensure (or at least try) that they have a happy life. I can understand people saying bringing up the overpopulation argument, but I don't like the idea of physically limiting the amount of children people have. My dad comes from a family of 7 and my mum from a family of 9. My grandparents (on both sides) worked their asses off to provide for my parents and their respective siblings and pretty much everybody turned out okay. All of them are either employed or retired, most have families of their own and none of them ever relied or mooched on others simply to survive. They all contributed to society. So really, the number of kids people want to have shouldn't be limited, but the parents should be able to take care of them in their own right, it's really not acceptable if they want kids, but don't have the means to take care of them.

    Still though, that woman should be pimpslapped. She already had 6 kids before she had the octuplets. As if she didn't have enough little objects to keep her from being bored. (that's pretty much why she had them). And lol at the claims her parents sucked and didn't give her attention. Where is she staying? Her parents place. Who's providing all the income for her huge family? Her parents.


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