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    Default My View At the Good and Evil

    I personally don't believe in existence of pure Evil but i believe in pure Good:

    A Pure Good Person For me as let's say monk that doesn't cares about his personal belongings and problems He simply wants to help all beings as much ass possible.

    A Purely Evil person seeks to harm every other being around him and that makes the problem it's much harder i mean should he plan a Global Catastrophe or harm other people in every possible opportunity like kicking small kids.Whatever you choose you won't get far with Evil constantly making foes enemies unlike good where you make friends allies...

    So i Believe there are only 3 kinds of people:

    The one That Will do everything do help other people

    The one that will do anything to progress threw they lives like :Robbing Banks,Selling Drugs,Killing their competition.In other words they always choose the best possible way for them.

    And the Normal people that are Varying between those two.
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    So i don't believe in Evil cause it doesn't pays of to be Evil

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    There are no good and bad people, only good and bad actions.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado † View Post
    There are no good and bad people, only good and bad actions.
    Well i could agree on that.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Mind View Post
    monk that doesn't cares about his personal belongings and problems He simply wants to help all beings as much ass possible.
    Is he a sex monk?

    Sorry, may wanna fix that though lol. My perverted mind found it funny. Anyways I believe in neither pure good or pure evil within people because you can always be just a little bit better and you always can be a lot worse. That's just my take on things.
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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    I believe in good and evil. Though I admit to being raised on Christian beliefs since childhood, I've come to know evil personally without regards to knowing it simply as an abstract concept that exists.


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    technically evil cannot exist without good and vice versa, if theoretically there was no evil then being good would be normal since it has no opposite to compare it to. Similary if everyone in the world was evil and good didn't exist can you actually say everyone is then evil since it is the norm and there is no opposite to compare it to.

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    Hey guys remember my point Evil simply doesn't pays off

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    The Good's Avatar the Bad and the Ugly
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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Mind View Post
    Hey guys remember my point Evil simply doesn't pays off
    The great Greek philosopher, Plato, said something along those lines as well. This can be found in his dialogue, The Republic.


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    Good and evil are relative constructs of the human race, outside of which they do not exist. That which you say is good and evil is actually that which is beneficial or harmful to society in accordance with your own societal mores. There is only one action that is universally condemned by humans as evil and that is to disrupt your own society or other such grouping that you belong to.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    See for me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mind View Post
    A Pure Good Person For me as let's say monk that doesn't cares about his personal belongings and problems He simply wants to help all beings as much ass possible.
    This guy is evil and...

    A Purely Evil person seeks to harm every other being around him and that makes the problem it's much harder i mean should he plan a Global Catastrophe or harm other people in every possible opportunity like kicking small kids.Whatever you choose you won't get far with Evil constantly making foes enemies unlike good where you make friends allies...
    This guy doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mind View Post
    Hey guys remember my point Evil simply doesn't pays off
    Hay guise who else just got back from bible camp?

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    I would say certain people in the last century proved the existance of pure evil. The fellow behind WW2, dictators around the World, etc.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    I don't believe in good or evil as absolutes or anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm no post-modernist, I think there is such a thing as objective right and wrong morally, but good and evil, especially evil, imply some sort of supernatural sort of right and wrong which I just don't agree with.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    Well I do believe in evil. I couldn't say exactly why, but I couldn't say that I didn't.

    It is often said of the sociopath or the psychopath that they don't know about other people, so they cannot understand empathy. But a psychopath will often positively derive pleasure from hurting others in a sado-masochistic type of way. And the urge must be very strong to do this, because it's often self-destructive. You can see that in Saddam Hussein or Stalin; it's just that little bit that you didn't need to do; you already are in power, everybody knows that you're the boss, nobody dares to speak up against you; yet somehow they always have to go that little bit further than simply exercising enough cruelty to remain in power, and theycommit crimes that are obscene, vile and disgusting.
    I have no problem calling that evil; we need a word for it.
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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    " So i don't believe in Evil cause it doesn't pays of to be Evil "

    Mind,

    Jesus once said that the commandments boil down to loving one's neighbour as one loves oneself. This is where evil begins because no-one can do that. Yes there are degrees of evil in our eyes but in God's eyes it all comes under exactly the same category. That is why we are all called sinners until that nature is replaced by another.

    We have this thing that whenever we help someone that makes us good. What then of all the other times when we are not good? Simple things like cursing, breaking the speed limit, finding money and pocketing it, nicking time off work, taking from the office things that are not yours among many many others. Are they not harming someone else?

    But then these are the simple aspects of evil so let's consider Bernie Madoff who swindled billions, or Chas Manson who took pleasure in butchery or the guys that abused little Peter here in Britain. That is the other end of evil but added together it all comes under the same bracket.

    These are individual acts and when we look to collective evil we come to the Hitlers, the Stalins and the Pol Pots of this world who used their populations to commit wholesale slaughter to satisfy their own ambitions. It always starts in small ways and depending on how high one gets in society so too does this evil in us advance. Yet the strange thing is that it doesn't go unnoticed, not by the victims and not by God.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    How is a monk helping as many people as he can by separating himself from society for continuous prayer and worship?


    I believe in good versus evil, as the titanic tug of war of life. Good people are good, and have no choice but to fight for good... but evil people have a choice. They can either fight for evil... or fight for good. Good has always been an alliance between the good and the willing evil good.

    Or something like that.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    As other people have already said, there are actions with positive or negative results, nothing good or evil, and nothing has an entirely negative or positive result, but has both aspects. For example a terrorist isn't evil, but his actions will have negative consequences for some and positive actions for others, with prehaps both desciding he is good or evil based upon these actions, the same for the terriorist's actions, positive or negative aspects to the result.

    Oh and the Monk, you can argue that he is being selfish because he is looking for his selvation. There is no such thing as being selfless its impossible, any action you do for others gains you atleast there friendlyness and co-operation, you or the Monk/selfless person, can argue that the rewards don't actually matter. But you don't know this and the Monk/selfless person, could either be outright lying or simply consiously thinking this while sub-consiously he is doing it for the rewards merely convincing himself that he isn't.
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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    I beleive the purely evil people are the people who believe in extreme 'truths'. Truths like Pure Evil and Pure Good.

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    " I beleive the purely evil people are the people who believe in extreme 'truths'. Truths like Pure Evil and Pure Good."

    Vizsla,

    Then I asume the Lord Jesus Christ comes into that category?

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    isnt evil and good invented words by the church and means "faith" and "non faith"? :S
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    Default Re: My View At the Good and Evil

    I consider good to be whatever is like God. People were created good, people have good in them, and no matter how confused or deceived people are, God loves them.

    So I can't define certain actions as always good, or always bad. It's not even good for me to try to make judgments about that. What I really like is to treat people the way God does, to be like him. Now.. I only know something of what he's like because of the way he treats me.

    I think most of us know, somehow, in some way, that something is good or bad. But we can be and are confused, a lot. Mercy is good though, God's merciful to me when I'm confused.


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