excellent video! what did you think of his impact and talking points?
i wonder if that congressman actually did call people brown shirts, its funny how he says he didn't say that but says he apologized for the comment!
Vicarius
Marine wins agaisnt congressman
excellent video! what did you think of his impact and talking points?
i wonder if that congressman actually did call people brown shirts, its funny how he says he didn't say that but says he apologized for the comment!
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Vicarius
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
That quite possibly, is the dumbest, marine I have ever seen.
Not only that but the nazis where fascists , right wing authoritarian, socialists are left wing authoritarian.
Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.
Triggering
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Originally Posted by humvee2800
Yes of course the National Socialists were right wing, I bet they were all pro-free market economics and low taxes.
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Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Yeah, just like the DPRK is really a democratic republic. Glad nobody lies in their official titles.
Yes of course the National Socialists were right wing, I bet they were all pro-free market economics and low taxes.
Campidoctor
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
QFT
Phier, what do you think the "S" in "NSDA" stands for?
Triggering
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
We have had this conversation on this board before.
The Nazi's were centrists economically and authoritarian.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Civitate
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
The Nazis were economic nationalists/neo-mercantilists economically.
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Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
So they weren't socialists.
''Thanks for playing''
Praeses
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
What is your point? The Nazis were indeed pro Free market and capitalists to the core.
Yes of course the National Socialists were right wing, I bet they were all pro-free market economics and low taxes.
PS. This video is massive fail.
Domesticus
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Actually the socialist wing of the Nazi party was purged in the Night of the Long Knives. Ernst Rohm was their faction leader. As we know now, the nationalist, right wing of the party is what remained to take power.
Yes of course the National Socialists were right wing, I bet they were all pro-free market economics and low taxes.
Petit Burgués
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Not really, take a look at Hitler economics, Fascism can be quite centrist regarding market.
Still your point remains many non totalitarian regimes have free health care it's not a Nazi/Commie thing it's a normal standard in most western countries.
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Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
One of the dumbest "jarheads" I have ever seen.
Seriously, all he did was rant off a bunch of sentences that he wrote down earlier. You had the microphone so that you can ask questions and understand.
Maybe he had to say that the bill would let the veteran keep his Health plan because the Republican fear mongerers keep telling Veterans that they are going to lose it.
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Everybody is a marine on youtube.
Frankly he sounds like a gulliable man who has been led. His arguments are a mark behind retarded.
Protector Domesticus
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Yeah, Hitler LOVED Socialism. He was a regular old Bolshevik, not like he declared war against another Socialist state partly because of his antipathy to socialism or anything......
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Praefectus
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
He identifies hisself as a disabled vet. Does anyone know in what way he is disabled? Neither mentally (from his speech), or physically (as he walked away) I couldn't spot the disability.
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Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
He was prob shot and hit in the arm or leg or something.
Praefectus
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Wounded and disabled are two entirely different concepts.
"oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
Praepositus
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
He can't think beyond 8 year old level.
Civitate
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
Again,
The Nazis were neither capitalists nor socialists the way those terms are understood today.
They were economic nationalists. Essentially they modified a mercantilist style of political economy. Theories on Political Economy in Industrial Societies are not only based on the capitalist/socialist false dichotomy. Calling the Nazis "centrists" does not provide any real information as it ignores how economic nationalism is a system of political economy in and of itself.
Nazi Germany is the classic example of economic nationalism= where the government supports certain private industry companies in the name of nationalism.
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Dux Limitis
Re: Marine wins agaisnt congressman
apparently uve never studied Hitler, his past nor his party and their policies.
U do know that in the inter-war years, before his time in the Nazis, he was in a communist group? It is well known (at least by those that have delved into the life of Hitler) that he did not particularly like capitalists either. Much of what he did was in the interests of gaining the maximum support possible - the Nazis often cooperated with communists in parts of Germany when their goals were the same (bringing down the Weimar government). He was a turncoat throughout most of his life tbh; his political views were driven by bigotry and racism more than any real political idealogy.
With regards to his party; despite their hatred and propaganda against commies, they did often follow similar tacts with regards to governing the country. Once again, much of the hatred for commies came down to racial matters more than political idealogies.
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As for the guy in the video; i dont see the point of the thread really. It seems like 2 nubs going at one another (a congressman that's stupid enough to label others 'brownshirts', and a marine that, despite a decent amount of knowledge of the nazis, appears to be arguing for....what?)
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